>> Mrs. Thompson, will you call the roll please? >> Dr. Mann. >> Present. >> Dr. Bradley-Huang. >> Present. >> Dr. Rey Castro. Mr. Baum. >> Here. >> Mr. Martin. >> Here. >> Mr. Thomson. >> Here. >> Mrs. Wells-Miller. Mr. Abadia. >> Okay. Calling the meeting to order. Is there anyone present who wishes to address the Board on items not on closed session items? If not, the Board will adjourn for closed session, Government Code 549576, Labor Negotiations and Government Code 54957, Employed Dismissal, Discipline and Release and we will reconvene at 7 p.m. [ Pause ] >> I'd like to call the meeting to order. Will people please come to their seats and I would like to ask, Mr. Renfroe, Mr. Luther Renfroe, our former Board of Trustee member to lead us in the Pledge of the Flag. [ Pause ] >> Oh, Mr. Renfroe, you need to come--oh good, you are coming up here where you could be heard. Just stand right there, it will be great. No, come on around the side, so they can hear you on the thing. Thank you. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you, Mr. Renfroe. I would now like to ask the newly elected Board Members to come forward to be sworn in. Dr. Bradbury-Huang, Mr. Baum, Ms. Brown and Dr. Fellow, could you please come up here? >> It's cold. >> It's chilly. >> This room is so strange. >> Do we have--okay, you guys are going to get over there. Would you please, can the people who want to take pictures, get their pictures okay from this angle. >> Come on in, picture takers, come on in. [ Laughter ] >> Okay, would you please raise your right hand and repeat after me. I, please state your name. >> Do solemnly swear. >> Do solemnly swear. >> That I will support and defend. >> That I will support and defend. >> The Constitution of the United States. >> The Constitution of the United States. >> And the Constitution of the State of California. >> And the Constitution of the State of California. >> Against all enemies, foreign and domestic; >> Against all enemies, foreign and domestic; >> That I will bear true faith and allegiance >> That I will bear true faith and allegiance >> The Constitution of the United States >> The Constitution of the United States >> And the Constitution of the State of California. >> And the Constitution of the State of California. >> That I take this obligation freely, >> That I take this obligation freely, >> Without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion, >> Without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion, >> And I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter. >> And I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter. [ Applause ] >> Over there, yeah. And at this time, I would like to invite the Board Members, ask the Board Members if they have anyone they want to introduce and I'm going to ask them in alphabetical--we're gonna go in alphabetical orders, so, Mr. Baum do you have anyone in the audience you would like to introduce? >> Absolutely. First and foremost, I want to introduce my wife, Lisa and daughter, Amy who are here. Amy, stand up and wave and tell everybody. I'm so honored to have a number of friends and supporters here, so it's a delight to see former Council member, Ann Marie Villicana, who's here and her husband, Robin Salzer. And it's a real honor to have the first African-American Trustee elected to the Board of PCC, Luther Renfroe, here, so I want to acknowledge Luther. And everybody else who's here that came here to see this, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Dr. Bradbury-Huang, do you have someone you'd like to introduce? >> Well, I do, my nearest and dearest however are not here yet. I imagine maybe they're circling the parking lot or some such, so I will introduce them when they do arrive, if there's another point in our evening. >> Great, all right and Ms. Brown, do you have someone you would like to introduce? >> Yes, I do. I have many I would like to introduce. First I would like to introduce my husband, Vernon. I have my daughter, Michelle and I have a host of friends from church. My pastor's here. Please stand up, Pastor Milton, yes. And I have all my sisters I wouldn't dare start and a whole bunch of nieces and nephews and friends from the family and I wanna thank you for coming and seeing me tonight. [ Applause ] >> Dr. Fellow, do you have anyone you would like to introduce? >> Yes, Dr. Mann. First, I'd like to introduce my wife and chief advisor, Clara Potes-Fellow. I'd like to introduce my mother, Mary Jo Fellow. My sister, Gerry Fellow. And I also have a very special guest here today, who was very instrumental in my campaign, Joanne Steinmeier and she is a trustee and former President of the Arcadia Unified School Board. I specifically wanted Joanne here today because I think with my election and with her here, we're going to open a new era with the Arcadia Unified School District and Pasadena City College and that will be a new era, so thank you for being here and thank you for all you've done. Thank you, Dr. Mann. >> You're welcome. I wasn't just elected, but I do wanna introduce assembly member, Anthony Portantino, who I just saw. Is he still here? Okay, Anthony? We're going to proceed with a very quick business meeting where we just--this will just take about 5 or 10 minutes and then we are going to have a reception for the new board members and all the guests and I hope those guests can stay, so we can have time to meet and talk with you, but at this point, we are going to proceed with the election of officers and I will entertain nominations for Board President. >> I would like to nominate Dr. Bradbury-Huang to be the Board President. >> Second. >> Any other nominations? All right, all in favor, please say aye. >> Aye. >> Motion carries. Dr. Bradbury-Huang, you're now the Board President. [ Applause ] [ Pause ] >> Good evening everybody. I know you'll join with me in expressing our gratitude for Trustee Mann's what became unusually hard work over the year, became a full-time job, not just a part-time Board member, so thank you Trustee Mann. [ Applause ] [ Pause ] [ Inaudible Discussions ] >> Thank you very much, I had a fire in my house 5 years ago and all my plaques were ruined, so now I've got new plaques. Thank you. [ Applause ] >> And also to let you all know, we honor Dr. Jeanette Mann for her service as Board President by contributing to the Pasadena City College Foundation general scholarship fund in your honor on this 9th day of December. It's appropriate given where your heart is. Thank you. >> Thank you all very much. [ Applause ] >> Okay with no further ado, let me open--let me entertain nominations for Vice President. >> I'll nominate Mr. Thomson as Vice President. >> Second. >> Are we ready to vote? All in favor, aye. >> Aye. >> Any nays? Congratulations. >> Thank you. [ Applause ] >> I'll entertain, yeah. I will entertain nominations for clerk. >> I'd like to nominate Mr. Baum. >> Second? >> Second. >> Very good. Any discussion? All the ayes, please express yourselves. >> Aye. >> All the nays. Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Trustee Baum. [ Applause ] >> I say we should take this opportunity to give John Martin as much work as possible. He's our a missing trustee, so [laughter ] he should be able to do that. >> Okay. >> And the one introduction I forgot to make even though it's going to put him on the spot, I made sure to wear my Women's Basketball State Championship ring when I swore the oath and I see Coach Joe Peron, the championship coach of our State Women's Basketball team. [ Applause ] >> [Inaudible] just 'cause I always liked to do that. >> One more position needs to be secured at this time and it is the secretary to the board. Our tradition is that the secretary to the board is the superintendent president. >> So moved. >> Second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Congratulations, Dr. Sugimoto. [ Laughter ] >> Thank you. >> Very good. We'll also do one more appointment at this time and that's to the CCLC, the California Community College League and I'd be honored if Trustee Mann would continue to serve in that position. You're already elected to that board, one of their movers and shakers and in reappointing you, we express our gratitude for the importance of that work and connecting us to our colleagues around the state and indeed around the nation. Very good. It would also be normal for me to talk about Ad-Hoc committees at this point. Because we have the evening ahead of us, I'm going to leave that until the end of the meeting when it will fit in as we talk about what's coming up in our board retreat. All right. Item F, I think, certification of signatures must be done. >> I move we certify the signatures as indicated in the Item F as required by the Education Code. >> Very good. >> Any second? >> Second. >> And Dr. Sugimoto, I'll just assume that that happens in the background, is that correct? >> Yes. >> Okay, very good. >> Item G? >> Will we have to vote? >> Yes, you do have to. Oh, excuse me, okay. Student trustee, we need your vote on this one. >> Aye. >> To certify the signatures. Thank you. All the ayes? >> Aye. >> Any nos? Any abstentions? Very good. Let's go ahead and set day and time of regular board meetings for 2010. That will include the upcoming retreat on January the 6th hastily organized there the last time, but otherwise, there were no surprises. You'll notice that we maintained our usual schedule. Go ahead. >> I move that we set the first and third Wednesday of the month at 6 o'clock as our normal meeting time. >> Second. >> Very good, thank you. Any discussion? Board? >> Aye. >> Student trustee? >> Aye. >> All the ayes? >> Aye. >> Any nos? Any discussion? Okay, so now we get to convene the regular business meeting. >> We're going to adjourn the annual meeting, so the reception. >> And we will adjourn the annual meeting--the annual organizational meeting and I will now open. >> Now, we're going to take a reception. >> No, no, after. Not yet, John. >> I need to open the regular business meeting. Importantly, I want to give some time to introductions. We'll introduce new faculty, the president advisory committees, retirees associations, parent-teacher student association and the 2010 Tournament of Roses court, so many, many introductions to do that before I turnover to President Sugimoto to help us with that, I would like to recognize my nearest and dearest, I saw you walking in, my little bear. Why don't you stand up and wave to Mommy? >> There she is. >> Great to see you. She knew there was cake, you see. [ Applause ] >> And my spouse, David Wah who is, I'll steal your line Dr. Fellow, he is my smartest adviser by far. Thank you for being here. [ Applause ] >> Dr. Sugimoto, if you would. >> Thank you, Dr. Bradbury-Wah. I'd like to turnover this time the introductions to Dr. Jacky Jacobs who introduced our new faculty and one of our new deans. >> Thank you, Dr. Sugimoto and to Board President, Board Members and to our audience. We are very happy tonight to introduce to you our new faculty for this year and also our new dean that we have. You, the Board, received names. Now, you can put a face with the names. This will be very brief because you will get a chance to see the faculty later in the year as well as to meet them and greet them at the reception, so we have asked the deans to be very brief and you can understand that. So, I'll start with our dean. Dean Barbara Freund had been here since September 28th, so she's just beginning her third month with us. She is Dean of Health Sciences and that includes Nursing and all of the Allied Health Programs. She came to us when she received her doctorate, so she has all the degrees. Now, she has a doctorate from Walden University, Minneapolis, Minnesota. She came to us from the Eastern Virginia Medical School where she was a professor there and she has worked in many other capacities there in terms of research and other areas. Also, in terms of the nursing area, she has her RN and has worked for several years as a hospital staff nurse and as an ER charge nurse. So, at this time, I would like for Dr. Freund to please stand or come forth. Okay. Thank you, we welcome you and you will see more and hear more from her a little later. Now, if the deans would come forward as I call several names and then I'll call the others. First, we'll start with Dean Don Paxton, who's the Dean of Business and Computer Technology and after that, we will have counseling, Dean Cynthia--Dr. Cynthia Olivo and then we'll have English Dean Amy Ulmer. >> Thank you, Dr. Jacobs, to all the Board Members present. It's a pleasure to be here and it's a very distinct pleasure for me to introduce the new Fashion Design instructor in the Business and Computer Technology Division and it's none other than Ms. Sunny R. Cannon and Sunny is here. Oh, there's Sunny. Before I get started, I just want to say that from all indications from students and her colleagues and her department faculty members and even from my own observations, we have hired an outstanding instructor, par excellence and I think we've done the right thing at the right time, so I'm very thrilled to have her in the division. Now, let me share a little bit about Sunny in terms of her background. Sunny is currently teaching Fashion 1A which is fashion survey and Fashion 108, Pattern Making by Draping. In terms of education, she has her associate of arts degree in fashion specializing in children's wear from the Fashion Institute of Technology. She also has her Bachelors of Science degree in Production Management Specializing in Apparel, also earned at the Fashion Institute of Technology, a little rumbling here. In terms of work experience, Sunny has worked in several major fashion designs and production companies, both in Los Angeles as well as in New York and she has held the various positions of fashion designer, production manager and brand manager. So, Sunny comes to us with her excellent background and experience and knowledge and has already served our students for the last eight weeks in an extremely wonderful way and we're very delighted to have her as part of our division. Please join in welcoming Sunny Cannon. [ Applause ] >> Good evening everyone, I'm Dr. Cynthia Olivo and it's my pleasure to introduce to you somebody who could not be here tonight because she's in labor as we speak. Her name is Lan Truong. She graduated from Cal State Long Beach with both her Bachelors and Masters and she has been an adjunct counselor here at PCC since 2004. In addition to her adjunct role here at PCC, she has also served as an adjunct counselor at El Camino College, Santa Monica College, Cyprus, Cerritos and ELAC. We are very happy that Lan Truong has joined our team. She has experience that our students can identify with and she's already served us very well this semester, so thank you very much and let's all wish Lan well tonight. [ Applause ] >> Good evening, I'm Amy Ulmer, the Dean of English and welcome to our new Board Members. It's my pleasure tonight to introduce our newest reading instructing, Vanitha Swaminathan. As you might be able to guess from Vanitha's name, she hails from India where she received numerous degrees including a Bachelors in English and Economics from Rancho University and then a Bachelors in Education, English and Hindi from Mumbai University. That wasn't enough, so she went on to the University of Sheffield in the United Kingdom to get a Masters in Education and English Language and Learning and from there, she thought she'd go to Dubai. So, Vanitha spent 13 years in Dubai teaching at Dubai Women's College and for some reason, Modesto, California called to here. So from Dubai, she travelled to Modesto. While in --I should ask her about this. While in Modesto, she received a certification in Post Secondary Reading from Cal State Fullerton, taught at Modesto Junior College, San Joaquin Delta and now, we're absolutely thrilled to have her here and it is our earnest devout Christmas wish that she will become permanent full-time employee with us. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Our next dean will be Engineering and Technology, Dean Douglas Haines, our Health Sciences, Dr. Freund and in Mathematics, Dean Carl Maine. >> Thank you, Dr. Jacobs. Good evening. My pleasure to introduce Neiel Norheim. Neiel comes to us from his experience as an architect with the GRAFT group which was one of the group that went to New Orleans for the Make-It-Right group and was featured in a book with Brad Pitt on the designs that he worked on in rebuilding the Ninth Ward. He received his education from a fine school at Pasadena City College. [ Applause ] >> Then went on to Cal Poly at San Luis Obispo where he received his graduate degree in Architecture with a minor in sustainability. After that, he went on to Europe to study in Copenhagen, Denmark. He came back to the United States worked with a number of firms designing as project managers and has been with us as a lecturer and as a temporary faculty for the last year and we're very pleased that he had been able to join us. Neiel Norheim. [ Applause ] [ Pause ] >> Hi, I'm Barbara Freund, I'm the new Health Sciences Dean and it is my great pleasure to say hello to you all this evening. In my introduction of myself and then also of my two new faculty, I will say that since I'm the new dean, I will admit to not knowing what I didn't know and so I didn't come prepared with a wonderful CD and resume of my two new faculty, but I think I can give you a flavor of the excitement that I have for them and thus, that you will have as well. So, I'll do it in alphabetical order. The first one is Herbert [inaudible]. If he'll stand, please. Herb has been hired into our Radiation Technology program. He does hold a Masters degree in Business and he is a home-grown PCC graduate. He did graduate from our Radiation Technology Program and so, I'm actually looking forward to getting, to sit in on one of his classes next week to go through the evaluation process and so maybe, I'll have more to tell you about him the next time. Herb, thank you very much. And then other person that it gives me great pleasure to introduce to you is Paula Vento. If Paula will stand. Paula has just joined us in the nursing faculty. She does hold a Masters degree in Nursing, teaches in our advanced med-surgical nursing course and has been an intensive care, critical care nurse for quite some time which is very comforting to me as I get older because I may be needing people like that. I will also say that I have already had the pleasure of sitting in on a class with Paula and while I have not taught nursing in many, many years having gone through some other administrative positions since then, I found myself having to really hold back to not raise my hand and participate in her class. It was so exciting and so really meaningful to me to see what our students are experiencing with our faculty and it just gives me goose bumps to think about what a fantastic faculty we have and what a wonderful student body is being prepared for health care professions and so, I am so, so happy to be on the West Coast now with you all and I really look forward to being able to bring you wonderful reports as we go through this together. Thank you very much. [ Applause ] [ Pause ] >> Good evening, I'm Carl Maine, the Dean of Mathematics. In the last few years, you have allowed me to hire three replacement positions and this year, three growth positions in Mathematics and I want to express my appreciation of the Board very much for that. In these last two years, we have redone what we have done in the past and as long as I can remember the qualification of being a Math instructor here was simply to be able to teach all the Math courses that we have from pre-Algebra to differential equations. These last two years, we've modified that somewhat, we're calling it not only just Math instructor but Math instructor (basic skills emphasis) and we were searching for faculty who would show us, not only some experience and expertise in the lower levels of Mathematics and teaching that but would show us a love and a passion for that and we really believe that over the last two years we really found that and I've got some fine people to show you about that tonight. The first one is Elizabeth Newton Cannis. She can't be here tonight. She lives two hours away and she has a 7 o'clock class tomorrow morning, so she begged your forgiveness, but she got her BA and her Masters in Education from UCR and then she got a Masters in Mathematics from UCR this last year as well. She spent three years as a Math teacher at Martin Luther King High School in Riverside and she had been an adjunct at California Baptist University and San Bernardino Valley College. She leaves in Romoland. If anybody knows where that is, it's down near Temecula Murrieta. She is married with one child. Okay, maybe--she's sorry she couldn't be here tonight, so am I. Next we have Silvia Talaoc. She started as a College of the Canyon student. She got her BA in Mathematics from CSUN as well as her Masters there. She was a lecturer at CSUN. She is a Math lab supervisor at College of the Canyons and then later an adjunct at College of Canyons. She lives in Santa Clarita and she was recently married. And then we have Mary Sharobiem. Her BA and MA in Mathematics came from Cal Poly Pomona, so you can see we're drawing from all the local universities and we think we're doing very well in that regard. She was a lecturer at Cal Poly. She was an adjunct here at PCC. In fact, I can say that three years ago about the second day I was dean, this young lady walked in my office looking for a job and I knew right away, it was somebody we probably wanted, so I think she was the first adjunct I ever hired. Last year, she was a full time temporary instructor for us and this year, we've got her on the tenure tract. She is married to her doctor husband and lives now in Azusa, a new house. >> I'm really very pleased with the quality we got in the last two years is absolutely awesome. If there's any kind of legacy I'm gonna leave the Math division upon my retirement it's gonna be the fact that I got really good people there coming in, so thank you very much. [ Applause ] >> Our last three will be Natural Sciences. Dr. Dave Douglas and then our Social Sciences, Dr. Mike, where's--are you here? Okay, you will come next and Finkenbinder and then Visual Arts and Media Studies would be last. >> Good evening, thank you. I'd like to introduce two outstanding new faculty members. One you've seen before, Dr. Pam Eversole-Cire who has a Bachelors degree in Chemistry and a Bachelors degree in Biology and a Masters Degree in Biology and a PhD in Biology and she up until about five or six years ago, for about six to eight years was working at our South Campus as a world class researcher for new trustees that's Cal Tech. [Laughter] And we have managed to woo her away overtime and now she had seen the light and she is a full pledged teacher and rather than me talking about her. I'd like you to hear a little bit about what her students say about her. They say Dr. E is always on top of her game. She's a huge motivation and influence on our career path. She's the perfect instructor who knows how to teach the subject in a manner that's easy to understand, so we're really glad to have her. She not only is a faculty member, she's the program director for our biotechnology program, so she does double duty. Next, I'd like to introduce Sonya Valentine and Sonya is a fantastic example of growing your own. Sonya was a student at Pasadena City College. She transferred to Cal State Los Angeles where she got her Bachelors degree. She went to Cal State Los Angeles, she continued on there and luckily while she was working her way through college at Cal State LA to get her Masters degree, I was able to hire or we were able to hire her as our laboratory technician in Biology, Anatomy and Physiology and so she's worked for us for the past three years in that capacity and then this year, she now becomes full time, faculty members, so we're really glad to have Sonya. Her students say, this instructor is very kind, caring, understanding, patient and firm but fair, she deserves a raise. [ Laughter ] >> She has a good attitude, she always walks in with a smile and makes Physiology easy and fun, so that's Sonya Valentine. [ Applause ] [ Pause ] >> I'm Mike Finkenbinder, Dean of Social Sciences for Pasadena City College and we are fortunate that our two new instructors do live in the same time zones that we are, so they are here tonight. The first we have is Dr. Christopher Jimenezy-West who started out at UC Berkeley, came to his senses and did his graduate work at USC in History. He served as a curator for the African-American History museum while teaching at Santa Monica City College and he's here to teach American History, African American History and the History of Africa. Dr. Jimenezy-West. [ Applause ] >> The other instructor is Dr. Tracy Sachtjen who started out at Smith College, did graduate work at the University of Washington and finished her PhD at the University of California Irvine. She taught at Cal State Fullerton and she is here to teach US History, Women's History and California History and I'll tell you based on my observations of both of them, you have made a brilliant decision in okaying their hiring because these are outstanding instructors. [ Applause ] [ Pause ] >> Good evening, my name is Alex Gutierrez, I'm the Dean of Visual Arts and Media Studies and it is my pleasure indeed to introduce you to our newest faculty member in the division. Melanie Willhide came to us from the East Coast. She was an aspiring dancer. She danced with the Boston ballet in the early parts of her life and then for reasons that had something to do with wanting to get involved with the arts in a very different way, she decided to go first to Rhode Island School of Design for her Bachelors degree and then to the Yale University, School of Art for her Masters degree. She is now a product of the Community College System because she attempted to begin with the Manchester Community College in the beginning of her career. Now, one thing about the photography department because she belongs in the area that has been in great transition, she's gonna be teaching for us both the traditional wet photography, analog photography and also digital media and she's bringing to us a lot of experience from the professional photography world which is the toughest place for a professional photographer to be able to survive and to make it and we're very, very pleased to have her in our family, in our team. She's going to contribute incredibly in the quality of education for our students. Also, I'm very pleased to say that she's going to be one of the leaders that will take the program into the new Center for the Arts, which is completely equipped to accommodate all the changes in the discipline. I would like to welcome Melanie to our family. >> Thank you and some of them will have to go back to class, so you will excuse them but the others will remain and you will get a chance to shake hands and greet them during the reception. Thank you very much and let's give all of them a hand. They're really great. [ Applause ] >> Thank you Dr. Jacobs and now, I'd like to introduce the three President's Advisory committees and what I'd like to do is introduce the co-chairs and chairs for these committees and as I do, if they would stand and then I would ask that any of the committee members who are with them to stand with them once I introduce them. For the President's African American Advisory Committee, the two co-chairs Dolores Hickambottom. If Dolores is here--ah, there's Dolores. Thank you, Dolores and Dr. Jacky Jacobs, so if you please would stand. [ Applause ] >> And any of the members of the committee if you were in the audience, could you please stand and be recognized. [ Applause ] >> Thank you. And the President's Asian Advisory Committeee, Carol Liu is one of the co-chairs. I along with her co-chair this group and I would like to mention that Dr. Bradbury-Huang has been a member of this committee and has been to many of our meetings and participates significantly to our program. I'd also like to recognize Susie Ling who's in the audience who has been just the backbone of this advisory committee. Thank you, Susie. [ Applause ] >> And will the members of the committee please stand and be recognized. [ Applause ] >> And now, the Latino Advisory Committee, Armando Gonzalez is the co-chair along with myself and I know Armando called me today and said he was detained and would not be able to join us, so I wanted to recognize him and thank him for his time and effort on the Latino Advisory Committee and those of you in the audience who are members of the committee, if you'd please stand. [ Applause ] >> Thank you very much. And now, it's a pleasure for me to introduce the Retirees' Association and I know Mr. Harry Kawahara's stood representing the Asian Advisory Committee, that I know he's in the audience. Harry is the current President of the Retirees' Association, so if you'd please stand and be recognized, Harry. [ Applause ] >> And if there are any retirees that are in audience who are certainly members of the association, I think some of us may be joining you soon, but [laughter] if you would please rise and be recognized as members of Retirees' Association. And now a very special group, our Parent-Teacher and Student Association. They were here earlier today at our management association holiday reception. I'm not sure if Amparo Becerra, who is our President of the PTSA, if she's here would you please stand? Okay, she isn't. And any of the PTSA members if you're in the audience, please stand and be recognized. Ah, very good, Bobby Moon. [ Applause ] >> I also wanna say that Bobby Moon is the President of our Foundation. Thank you for joining us, Bobby. All right, onward and upward. [ Pause ] [ Music ] >> And it is now my pleasure to introduce the Royal Court of the 121st Pasadena Tournament of Roses Parade 2010, the theme being A Cut Above the Rest. Thank you for joining us. [ Music ] >> Good evening, ladies and gentleman, I'm Princess Ashley Thaxton and I'm a 17-year-old senior at John Marshall here in Pasadena. Now, at Marshall we have had a wonderful longstanding relationship here at Pasadena City College. Our graduation has been held here for many, many years and actually last year due to scheduling conflicts it looked like we weren't going to be able to have graduation here and the senior class threw a fit [laughter]. They were--we'd--in ASB meetings, they were going on about how wouldn't it be truly a graduation if it wasn't held here at PCC and luckily, we worked it out and so, graduation was held wonderfully as it always is at PCC and we are looking forward to our graduation this year on June 22nd. And we also had a wonderful relationship with the Pasadena Young Musicians Orchestra as well as Mr. Luck and the Lancer Band. Now, one of my greatest passions is musical theater and it is my goal to double major in Musical Theater and Music Education in college and I wish to teach Music and Drama here in the Pasadena Public School and then oh-- [ Applause ] >> I then wish to go on and get my Masters in either Business Administration and/or Political Science because I feel that those of us who are equipped to fight for a public education should do so and that is one of my greatest goals and passions and thank you so much for all being here in support of public education because it means so much to those of us who are products of public schools to be able to see such great institutions, so thank you very much. [ Applause ] >> And it is my pleasure to introduce to you, Princess June Ko. [ Applause ] >> Good evening. My name is Princess June. I am 18 years old and I go to Arcardia High School. Before I was even born my parents had to figure out what they wanted to name me and they decided that I was going to be an anchorwoman when I grow up, so they decided to name me June, 'cause it's short, simple, easy to say and easy to remember, but I didn't take it seriously until high school. After being involved in speech and debate and Apache News, I became more interested in current events and world news and in the future I hope to become a broadcast journalist. I actually took a survey of Mass Communications class here at Pasadena City College this past summer and Professor Foster was such a great influence. He opened my eyes to media today and the influences that they have on the people and how it affects us, so I can't thank you enough for providing such a great teacher, a great professor to me and really educating me on the media today. By becoming a broadcast journalist, I think I'll be exposed to so many diverse cultures, learn more about people's lives that are completely different from ours and I'll get to gain a better understanding of the world we live in and as a broadcast journalist, I hope to continue my strong community involvement in the future. I want to document the stories of people stepping up, everyday heroes and present that to people who don't have the resources for it and be able to inspire especially the youth to step up in their communities and be active volunteers and community leaders. Thank you. [ Applause ] >> It is my pleasure to introduce to you Princess Michelle Van Wyk. [ Applause ] >> Hello, I'm Princess Michelle and I'm a 17-year-old senior at La Canada High School. Now as many of you may know, this year's tournament theme 2010, A Cut Above the Rest will be prominently present throughout the parade. This year's parade will feature 41 vibrant floats, 22 equestrian units as well as 21 marching bands including a marching band all the way from Japan as well as a blind marching band for the school for visually impaired in Ohio. Now in keeping with this year's theme, A Cut Above the Rest, I do strive to be a cut above the rest, not only in my academics, but in after school activities as well. At school, I'm a member of the varsity song squad as well as National Honor Society. Outside of school, I am currently senior class president of National Charity League, Glendale Chapter where we work with various organizations such as the Special Olympics and New Horizons Tutoring Center. I am also a Girl Scout under the Greater Los Angeles chapter and I just earned my Gold award. I work with the boys and girls club in Pasadena to create a [inaudible] library for the deserving children there because it was almost heartbreaking walking in the first time and seeing that they barely had five books on their bare shelves. In the future, I hope to go on to a California School and study Communications and I can't even begin to tell you how honored I am by this opportunity, so thank you so much for being here tonight. [ Applause ] >> And it is my privilege to introduce to you, Princess Kinsey Stuart. [ Applause ] >> Hello everyone, I am Princess Kinsey and I'm 18 years old and proud to say that I am a Pasadena City College Lancer. [ Applause ] >> I am currently a freshman, so I'm brand new to the school. I'm just about to finish up my first semester and I have registration on Saturday for spring semester, so I'm very much looking forward to that. I love the school. It's beautiful and I just moved down to the Pasadena area, so it was such like an honorary welcome to come to such a loving community and I have had so many good experiences with the faculty here and I plan on attempting to start a club here at school next semester called the Pink Ladies Club and it will be a breast cancer awareness club. My mom is a two-time survivor and so, I would like to spread awareness about the disease and show how much, not only myself, but everyone around cares about those who have survived or those that know people who have survived cancer. I want to thank you all for having me here tonight. It's such a privilege to be able to speak in front of fellow Lancers and teachers and faculty and everyone that supports the school because I just know that I love it here and thank you for making my first year of college an amazing one. [ Applause ] >> It is now my honor to introduce to you Princess Lauren Rogers. [ Applause ] >> Good evening Board Members and guests. My name is Princess Lauren. I'm a 17-year-old senior and I go to Blair High School. Now, PCC is nothing new to me. My dad graduated here a couple of years ago as a registered nurse. He--and my aunt also works here. I have taken a couple of classes here, so I'm always here for one reason or another and I am now here as a member of the 2010 Royal Court and it's a privilege to be able to say that. I have been involved in many things in school. I'm in National Honor Society. I have volunteered a lot. I volunteered at Huntington Memorial Hospital where my dad now works and I am also involved in an outside group called the Bright Future Scholar Support Program which is a leadership program that promotes public speaking and also community involvement. We've gone to Washington D.C. for the past few years and have spoken to representatives there to try to make a difference in Pasadena and to continue my community involvement. I would like to become a speech therapist. I always say that I was born with a hearing problem and I got better because of speech therapy and I just like to come full circle with that and just give back to those that had the same issue as I did and I would like to thank everyone for having us here this evening. [ Applause ] >> And now, it is my privilege and honor to introduce Queen Natalie Innocenzi. [ Applause ] >> Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Queen Natalie and I'm a senior at Flintridge Sacred Heart Academy along with Princess Katie who unfortunately could not be here with us tonight because she's very sick and we don't want her to come when she cannot, so we're very upset that she can't be here, but thank you so much for having us here today. We're very excited and we're very honored to be able to speak in front of you and now, a little bit about myself. I am a strong advocate for Alzheimer's Awareness. My grandmother was diagnosed with Alzheimer's about six years ago. It has changed my life completely. Because of her, I would like study Gerontology in the future and I am also currently a National Advisory Board Member for the Alzheimer's Foundation of America. I also organized an Alzheimer's Awareness Week at my high school where I sold T-shirts that said, "Always remember those who can't." I also had a speaker come to my school from USC, Go Trojans, [laughter] to speak to the student body and educate them on the disease. I am so honored and humbled to be able to speak in front of you and thank you so much for us. Thank you. [ Applause ] >>Thank you to the Rose Court and thank you for being with us this evening. Dr. Bradbury-Huang, I also have one other introduction, I'm sorry it wasn't listed on the agenda, but Elaine Reodica is in the audience tonight. I don't know if some of you remember Elaine but she was the Vice-President for External Relations at PCC a few years ago. She transferred to UCLA and now, she is located on our campus and represents the CCLC as a southern rep on budget issues and the Community College League for California. Elaine, it's very nice to see you again. It's a pleasure having you in the audience and we're glad you're on our campus, so Elaine Reodica. [ Applause ] >> Okay, whoops, then I have the great pleasure of inviting us all to have some tea and cake down in the drawing room and we'll reconvene about 10 minutes because we are honored by the presence of Anthony Portantino here in the front row, so we look forward to reconvening about 10 or so minutes. [ Background Discussions ] >> I'm very pleased to invite assembly member, Anthony Portantino to the podium. Last time, Anthony spoke with us officially, the fires were raging in La Canada and we were worried for your home and now indeed, it's not an especially happy occasion because between the rain and the budget cuts, it feels like every time you're with us, Tony, it's a scary story. >> Well, I hope we can put a happy face in that, but you're right. There are some scary times out there and certainly the budget crisis is affecting all of us, but thank you for having me. It's an honor and a privilege to be here and especially on swearing in nights, so I want to congratulate officially the two new Board Members, Mr. Fellow and Ms. Brown, on your accomplishments, getting elected to this great community college and certainly you're starting your term as President, I wish you well for the next year. I congratulate Dr. Mann for the year that she served and I tell everybody when I go around the State that I have the best district in the State of California. My colleagues get mad at me when I say that but I have the best district in the State of California and of course, I have the best community college in the State of California, the heart and soul of my district and as we heard tonight, so many people have been touched by PCC and it continues to pay such an important role both to our region and certainly community colleges to our state, so thank you for letting me come, share a little bit about what's going on in the State of California. Obviously, we know we're facing another 20 billion dollar budget crisis on the horizon. It does not appear that we're out of the woods. Certainly, students from around the state have highlighted how important community college is and the Cal State System and the UC System are to our economy. There are some staggering statistics out there and I'll share it with you. If you are 65 and older in the state of California, of course, there's nobody in this room that's 65 or older. If you happen to be 65 or older, you are part of the fourth most educated State in the country. We're fourth. If you're 25, we're fortieth. We went from 4th to 40th and that was not just a jump. Every cohort from 65 to 55 to 45 to 35 to 25 progressively as a state, we got less educated at the same time, our economy was demanding that we do better by our students to thrive and excel in a global high tech economy from a manufacturing economy which we were decades ago. We have not been doing right by our students, so that presents some unique challenges. I'll give you another statistic. We're 17,000 doctors short, although we need to meet the demands of an aging population. There are 47 allied health professions that have job shortages. We are 1.5 million short in the number of Bachelor degrees we need to create, just to meet the attrition rate of our economy. The need has never been so great and frankly on behalf of the state, I have to apologize that we have not been funding community colleges Cal State or UC to the level that we should be and to the level that our students demand. That being said, this institution is finding a way to do so well with these challenges. Community Colleges as a whole had an 8% cut in the state allocation last year which was an unprecedented reduction. Enrolment has surged 3% over last fall. Now at 2.89 million students, which is a record high, colleges report that registration time, just 95% or more of their core sections were completely filled with students on waiting list and many turned away from classes. It's staggering what the challenges are and how well PCC and other community colleges are meeting the demands. As I said and as many people know, the economy has changed. You know we have to make sure that we prepare our students to succeed. PCC and listening to the resumes of the new faculty members tonight, PCC is meeting that challenge locally and again, let's hope that in the next budget round, we do better by community colleges and by the entire [inaudible] segment. Certainly, the governor has shown one area where he does have an affinity which is community colleges being a graduate of Santa Monica City College. It's one area where the governor understands for his own success, community colleges played a role and he typically has an open door and has good discussions with community college community. On the horizon, President Obama announced the 12 billion federal initiative for community colleges and that's very good news. I'm pleased to say that I've picked up a bill from Senator Scott on having a higher ed accountability, a higher ed coordinated goals and objectives for the three segments and the community colleges I've been supporting--they supported Jack's bill when he carried it and the Governor vetoed it, Jack's last year and I was pleased to have his permission and the senate's permission to reintroduce Senator Scott's bill on higher ed accountability and it sort of makes sense what Jack was going for to have coordinated goals and objectives and have all the segments work together to meet those objectives for the State of California. I am hopeful that the Senate will pass the bill. It got out of the assembly, it's over in the Senate now then we could resend it to the governor's desk and hopefully, he'll sign it this year. As you know in the past, I've put forth bills on concurrent enrollment and listening to the princesses who've talked about taking classes here while they were in high school, certainly, you know, I think the lines between high school and community college can be blurred and we could do more academic partnerships between high schools and community colleges and do away with some of the bureaucracy that prevents high school students from taking community college classes. Just one simple one is a student in high school has to go fill out a form and get the principal's okay just to take a class here. It seems to me that that student and that family should be able to make that decision and many times it's the student who needs to come here because they don't really want to take calculus in high school and wanna get a leg up on a career here that if you tell them you gotta go fill out a form and get the principal's okay, that student is just going to turn around and walk away and not go through that bureaucratic red tape. So we're hoping to cut and streamline some of the red tape between high school and community colleges. And then you also have the high-performing student as well who might want some more academic challenges why shouldn't it be easy for that student to come to PCC or Citrus or the other colleges in our region and around the state. So we're pushing concurrent enrollment pretty hard and again, hopefully, we can convince the Department of Finance that the more efficiently you move students through the pipeline and the more you allow students to pursue their dreams, hopes and aspiration, the more productive they'll be, the quicker they get through the system and actually have a cost savings not a cost expenditure. I was pleased that the governor signed AB 573 this year. Oftentimes as legislatures, we do bills that deal with Science and Technology and frankly, we don't have the technical expertise and most of our staff members come out of government relations, they come out of Political Science, they typically don't come out of the hard sciences and so, I work with the California Institute of Science and Technology and created a fellowship program for PhDs to come work in the Capitol on one year fellowships and so this year, there will be 10 science professionals that are actually gonna be staffing both in the Senate and the Assembly at no cost to taxpayers. The non-profit is gonna pay their stipends. So these PnDs and one was a veterinarian, I mean they're all--have the final degrees in their field are now gonna be working in the Capitol for the next year and over the next five years we're gonna have 10 new fellowships every year coming into the Capitol. So as we work on science and healthcare, there are several doctors that are part of this year's class. We actually have [inaudible] draw from this wealth of knowledge from the science professionals who are gonna be working. So the governor signed that bill and they just started this week those 10 fellows. I also authored AB 48 to reestablish the bureau of private post-secondary education. As you know, the Maxine Waters Bill had expired several years ago and so there was no regulation for all of the private for profit post-secondary schools from the local barber college to the career and technical institutes that you see advertised on television. There has been no regulation of that industry for the last several years when that bill expired and there's been several attempts at getting a bill through the legislature that the governor had vetoed and so this year we were able reestablish the bureau of private post-secondary which created a student recovery fund and student protections. Recently, we read about the school [inaudible]. I think it was in Monrovia that closed and all those students lost all of their hard-earned money. So we actually have recreated the bureau and recreated a student recovery fund and we've also given out the proper exemptions. There's no reason why USC should be regulated by the state. We know what USC does. They don't win football games but they educate a fine cohort of students, Cal Tech as well. So we exempted out the Stanfords, the Cal Techs, and the USCs from state regulation and the governor signed that bill. So we're working hard on a lot of stuff. We're definitely pushing the concurring enrollment. Certainly, the needs of the economy are tremendous and one of my hopes is that we can galvanize all of the folks in California who benefited back when community colleges were free and Cal State was 500 dollars and Berkeley was 1,000 dollars. We educated generations of California students when we invested in them. We saw the post-World War II generation when we had the GI Bill of Rights and we created the middle class of the post post-World War II generation and we had economic prosperity of the '50s, '60s and '70s. The economic model works. So if you invest in students, they become educated, they become contributing members of our society, they create wealth, they create opportunity to create a broader tax base and certainly we all do better when we educate the least amongst us. And my hope is that all of the generations that benefited from that opportunity don't turn their back on today's California students. Many of them are the first in their families to go to college and certainly when we just looked at the sheer need of all of us, our collective need, we do better when we have an educated workforce. We do better when we have an educated population and we do better when we take care of the least amongst by giving them the opportunity to take care of themselves and--I've never had anybody in an audience disagree with the statement that sort of our moral responsibility to launch our children into the world educated and healthy. And if we can launch our children into the world educated and healthy, we'll all be better off and certainly if personal responsibility is gonna become part of the equation. I think it makes more sense to hold somebody accountable if we equip them with the opportunity to be educated and healthy. With that, I'll take questions and thank you for letting me come talk with you on such an auspicious night of swearing in new Board members who certainly have their hands filled with the trying times that the state is dealing you these days. >> That's right. Thank you very much. So, we're open for questions. >> Can I ask you some of my question--last week I heard Attorney-General Jerry Brown on radio and he was talking about--since many of our PCC students will be matriculating hopefully to the UC or Cal State system. He said right now the state legislature is looking at the UC and Cal State system as like an island for more cuts. And also he predicted that eventually it will become self-supporting. Do you think he was off base or do you think that's-- >> Well certainly, whenever we impact the Cal State or the UC system, more students matriculate to community colleges. I meant that's part of the challenges, if you cut here, it creates a burden somewhere else. So one of my hopes is we just started this week in reopening the master plan for higher education which is turning 50 years old. Today's California is a lot different than it was 50 years ago an so I'm hopeful that if we can have the big picture discussion about how all 3 of the segments work in for today and the demands of the students, we can win the economic argument. And I think that's the key, is we have to win the economic argument so people fundamentally understand that an investment in higher education is an investment, not an expenditure. Part of the challenge is--and community colleges don't have this challenge but part of the challenge in the media is we've read about some of the executive compensation issues at UC. We just read about one at Cal State. I've been a strong critic of the Cal State system when they were giving out the 18 percent raises in the middle of a budget crisis. Part of the dynamic is having the public's trust. Now, the good news for community colleges is state-wide, the support for community colleges is tremendous. Community colleges pull well above the other segments as far the leadership and how well they are run and you don't read about those issues. So, that's the good news. But we just have to keep making that case over and over again. A, that we can be trusted and that the segments can be trusted with the investment and B, that the relationship with community colleges, the Cal State to UC is a relationship and then that the master plan has to be updated and the hope is to do that this year and then have legislation next year, and my hope would be to even have dedicated funding sources to fully fund all three segments. As you know, we leave a significant amount of federal financial aid on the table because we're not helping needy students. We leave about 400 million dollars of federal financial aid on the table because we don't help needy students navigate the financial aid system. Again, we're last in the nation in student counselors to students, so it's pennywise and a pound foolish so we--we've got so many of these arguments that we just don't make and that's what I'm hopeful that we will. Have I answered your question? >> Yes, thank you. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> First of all, I wanna thank you for the leadership you've shown in actually within Sacramento to hold the line on the budget cuts to community colleges at least to a minimum. We [inaudible] which is a devastating cut to this institution to the tune of 7 or 8 million dollars that we had to figure out how to manage in this budget cycle but other segments of government were cut far more deeply and I know that you and colleagues had held the line for community colleges specifically because of your faith and confidence in what we do as a segment. So I wanna praise you for that because I know you're one of the leaders of that decision in Sacramento when it came down to those decisions that were being made by the leadership. I wanna go back to the concurring enrollment issue too because I think it is very appropriate for this district to look at very seriously and I have a personal interest within our Pasadena Unified School District and John Muir High School in particular. You and I participated in a meeting a few years ago where there's excess capacity at John Muir High School and that used to be a junior college. And wouldn't it be great if we could expand the offering of community college level courses to underserved segment of our community and whatever we can do to pursue a joint solution between our unified school district, our community college and with state support I think can answer a lot of challenges that we're facing here locally. So whatever--I want that information or strategy or whatever you think we can do to continue to support those efforts to encourage and develop pass for concurring enrollment that will allow us to do more at John Muir High School would be great. I don't know if you have any thoughts about how we can help you pursue those goals. >> I think that you hit the nail on the head. I mean there are students that would benefit from that partnership and certainly when institutions work together, you typically save money. So the time is right to do more of that. I'm gonna reintroduce the concurrent enrollment bill certainly if we have specific ideas that we can put into it. I think we should we should continue to do that and I know PCC as well as the community college they were supportive of the concurrent enrollment efforts. It's a little bit frustrating that the governor and the department of finance don't see it as cost savings. I think that's the challenge, to the extent we can work with PCC to document some cost savings with the pipeline. I think that might bolster our argument. So we can maybe huddle with the finance folks and try to figure some of that out. That would be very, very helpful. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Assemblyman Portantino. Just a quick question. I'm a student here at PCC and during the past I have seen a lot of hits to the higher educational system and to higher education in general and a 30 percent increase [inaudible] in tuition fees, 30 percent hike in the extra 6 dollars and a 20-dollar increase in the tuition as well. I understand you also are a very stalwart defender of the higher educational systems so I have to thank you for that. However, I just like to know and get an update. What are some of the things that are being and what are some of the things that we could further also do to help the higher education cause? >> I think the students have been instrumental. Not in decades have you seen students dominate the media to the extent that they have--I think it's important to not make the argument only about UCs. As the father of a freshman at UC Sta. Barbara, I'm not happy about the increase in fees but it seem like a lot of the media has dominated this latest round by the UCs. So I think to the extent that the community college, the Cal State, and the UC students can work together to highlight it as a global higher education crisis because I think it does affect all three segments. I think that would be a very good thing to do. When they lobby days and do the things that is usually one segment at a time. But if we can coordinate, that would be I think instrumental. I did oppose or not support the increase in community college fees this past cycle. I just didn't think it was proven to make it harder for kids to go to college again when we need it. I can't tell you frankly what's gonna happen a month from now. I really can't. I think people need to plan for the worst and hope for the best. I don't think there's really anything else to do but look to where we can save money and plan for a long-term struggle because it's 20 billion now. Next year, we're not gonna have the stimulus money. A lot of the cuts were back filled with federal dollars this year that may not be here next year. I hope the economy is starting to turn around. The unemployment figures were good last week but I can't promise you that 6 months from now you won't be faced with more bad news. One of the things that I try to do is be honest with--not sugarcoat the situation and it is a 20-billion dollar crisis and it's not getting better in the short-term. >> And if I may a followup question to that. Are there any new initiatives such as--for example, tax on the lottery that goes toward higher education? Are there any new initiatives like that going on up in Sacramento that could potentially help higher education? >> There are several proposals that are being sent around. I know in California we have the two-thirds requirement to pass a budget. We're one of three states, Rhode Island and Arkansas that require two-thirds to pass the budget. In fact, when I was a college student many, many years ago, I remember taking Management 101 that said responsibility must also be accompanied by authority. So if you're responsible for something, you should have the authority to do your job. Well, in California, we don't have that situation. We're responsible but we don't have the authority because it requires two-thirds. In Arkansas and Rhode Island, the party that has the majority happens to have two-thirds of the legislature, so it's not a factor. So the only state where it truly is a factor is in California. And the other thing that I always remember back when I was in school is you don't take significant parts of an equation off the table, sort of want to put everything on the table and have a big picture discussion. We don't have that because half of the revenue side is taken off the table. So there really is no fundamental discussion of revenue because again, given the two-thirds, we have a segment of the legislature that has vowed not to deal with the revenue side of the equation. I believe that the public doesn't just wanna send revenue to a black hole of the budget, but I think that was the lesson of May 19th, is that we had dedicated revenue streams that were gonna be diverted into the general fund. The public doesn't like that, but I believe the public does understand whether they're conservative, moderate or liberal, a specific expenditure for a specific purpose. And I think that's what we have to do, is we have to articulate and that's what I'm hopeful in the master plan revision, is that we'll articulate the goals and objectives with accountability with a dedicated revenue stream. That's our challenge, we have to earn the public's trust, we have to articulate revision. Now there are several proposals out there but anything that requires a two-thirds isn't gonna happen. There might be some things that go to the ballot, but again, that requires an outside entity to place something on the ballot because it also requires two thirds of the legislature to put something on a ballot. I don't know if you know that but just to place something on the ballot requires two thirds as well. So again, you have a situation right, wrong or different that the minority has veto power over the will of the majority which violates management 101, I think it was on page 3 of my management textbook when I was--I actually read that chapter. I used to read the first chapter, 2, 3, 4 I don't know about those, but very good questions because that's the challenge. You would think and then I'll give you a--the public understands when you say should a majority be able to make decisions, they say yes. But if you say should the majority be able to make decisions but also make decisions about revenue? They say no. We need to be incremental and actually get the authority to pass the budget so we have a pure document. Because right now what happens is the policy demands get in the way of the fiscal discussion. That shouldn't happen either. Physical issue should be pure and policy should be pure, and given the two thirds, they are all blended, which doesn't make any sense and again the public isn't well served by that. >> Any other questions? If not, we'll just thank you very, very much. Obviously your hands are full and we wish you luck. [ Applause ] >> Thank you. If I could take one more second on Tuesday, I'm having actually an open house at the Armory Center right here in Pasadena Tuesday night, you're all welcome to come to my holiday open house. We're collecting books for elementary schools, so if you bring a book we're gonna donate it to a local public elementary school and on my website we have a suggested list of elementary school books. And of course you all know of the 120 legislators, I'm the only one with my home telephone number on the state's website. So if you ever need me, call me at home. People are amazed that when it rings in my kitchen I actually answer it, but I feel like I work for you and if you have a problem you should be able to call me and if I don't want your call, I shouldn't want the job. Thank you very much and-- >> Thank you for your support to PCC. >> And if I could also introduce Tanganica Turner who is a new addition to my staff and who is already working closely with PCC. So please, if you have any other issues, don't hesitate to call her as well. [ Applause ] >> Okay we'll turn to item L, which is public comments on non-agenda items. I have two yellow cards here. So let me invite Kathleen Rodarte to the podium. Kathleen if you're still here, come on up. Thank you. You're not a newcomer to us so you know the 5-minute rule and so on. >> Yes, yes. >> Trustee Baum will hit the button. >> Thank you. I'm Kathleen Rodarte, Assistant Dean of Extended Opportunity Programs and Services and Federal TRIO Programs, and I briefly want to call your attention to a calendar that was placed in all of the board member's packets that was produced by the EOPS Association. Thank you Mr. Baum, and in the back of that calendar, there is a reprint of SCR 34, Senate Concurrent Resolution 34 that was passed in September of this year commemorating the 40th anniversary of EOPS programs at the community colleges. And that's 40 years of serving low-income, educationally disadvantaged students, and I'm proud to say that PCC has been participating that long in serving students and being very successful at that and I really appreciate the support from this Board of Trustees and the administration for EOPS programs. Thank you. >> Thank you for bringing that to our attention. And let me invite Nolan Pack to the podium. >> There's an inspiring article about Mr. Pack in the latest issue of The Courier. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> So hi everyone, I'm a student at PCC for the newer trustees and I wanted to say greetings to all of our honorable board members and a special welcome to our two new trustees, Belinda Brown from area 3 and of course Anthony Fellow from area 7. I'm thrilled to have you as part of the PCC family. We look forward to working with you from the student government perspective. I actually met assembly member Portantino fairly recently at a Sierra club meeting of all places, so that seems like a natural transition into a subject that is very near and dear to my heart which is sustainability. So I'm really, really excited about the promising new year that lies before us. So--and with the new year comes a new opportunity to innovate and overcome some of the unique challenges that we face as a community college in the State of California. I'm truly proud of the impressive efforts that PCC has made to become a more environmentally responsible institution. We have a number of cutting edge technological marvels that worked 24/7 to reduce our energy consumption and much more. As a student representative on the Shared Governance Sustainability Committee with Dr. Van Pelt and the chair of the Associated Student Sustainability Committee, I just want to bring to light some of the possibilities for continuing on building on our tradition of excellence. As one of the top community colleges in the nation, PCC has the unique opportunity to become a leader in sustainability in our community and beyond. And a number of on-campus groups, including Seeds of Change, the campus environmental club and the Associated Students Sustainability Committee, have been exploring the efforts of other colleges and universities as they journey towards sustainability. One of the biggest steps that PCC can take toward advancing are already substantial, an impressive record of environmental responsibility is creating a dedicated position for sustainability which is most commonly called in other places a sustainability officer. I spent the better part of the last year building working relationships with various organizations in the City of Pasadena, from the City of Pasadena's Green Team and the Environmental Advisory Commission, two grassroots community groups like the Sierra. The consistent message that I've gotten from literally all of the groups that I've worked with is that a dedicated sustainability officer would greatly improve the effectiveness of all of our environmental related efforts at PCC. In fact there are some schools that have already implemented this and those include such Ivy League heavyweights as Cornell, Harvard, MIT, Princeton and Yale as well as our neighboring Cal Tech, they have a sustainability officer as well, his name is John Onderdonk, he's very nice, as well as some of our fellow community colleges like Berkeley City College, Feather River College, Santa Monica College and even the LA 9 as well as dozens of others. So currently, our sustainability-related efforts are spread across multiple departments and several individuals and it's my feeling personally that a dedicated position that's responsible for such efforts would not only alleviate the workload as some of our hardest working staff members here at PCC but it would exponentially increase the efficiency and effectiveness of PCC's environment focus programs. So this would be a great thing for us. Also, the position would create greatly and a construction of a comprehensive, integrated sustainability plan for the college, which is a growing trend we've seen among other schools that are really doing some cutting edge stuff. Such plans take into account a broad range of factors from alternative transportation to buildings to dining services and purchasing. One of the most impressive plans that I came across in my research was the University of Richmond's sustainability plan, it's fantastic. It's 50 pages of really detailed information about the college's plans to become more green. And I found it really inspiring to see that other universities are doing that. So of course the position would help with that and the plan would actually help our college move forward at an even faster pace than we are already. And of course, a particularly pressing issue which I have come before the board to address before is water usage, and so I would urge the board to encourage policies that don't just react to the problems of today, but actually anticipate and account for the challenges that are stable [inaudible] tomorrow. Water shortage is imminent, we all know this. 33 states will experience tremendous water shortages within the next 10 years and California is not an exception. Our landscaping is very water intensive and there will come a time, there will come a time when it's no longer economically feasible to continue to maintain it, and so thus we must begin exploring alternative landscaping, such as zero scaping and the use of native plants. Beyond that, I've had the pleasure of sitting in on several meetings with the City of Pasadena's environmental advisory commission, and the city is taking imminent water shortage really seriously. They're taking aggressive steps to reduce consumption. And as the largest learning institution in the city and an integral part of the community, it's only natural that we lead the way in making water-wise choices so that PCC will set the best examples for residents in the city, in the state and beyond. Between creating a new position, writing a comprehensive sustainability plan and a policy for water reduction, I realized this is a lot of information to process at once. So I'm actually going to send out a follow-up email to the board with details on all of this. And so with that, I hope we can all move forward with these ideas in mind and I thank you for your time and attention and I wish all of you a happy holiday season and a most prosperous and sustainable new year. >> All right. [ Applause ] >> Right up the nose of 5 minutes as well. Item M announcements, our custom is to go around our table and invite announcements. I forgot how we do that. Do we start with-- >> Start with the shared governance groups. >> Shared governance groups, there we go. Help me out here. Yes? Great. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> All right. Thank you. >> The faculty has no announcements. >> Classified Senate has no announcements at this time. >> I do have one quick announcement about one of the events that is currently going on with association of students, I announced this last week as well but here it goes again, Holiday Angels does not end until Monday, the 14th of December. If you guys would like to be a Holiday Angel, you guys are welcome to do so. Basically we take the kids in the EOP and S programs and give them some gifts such as some kids for example a Transformer. And some of these things are really nice and some of these families are also in need of some support in that sort of manner. So AS has offered its help and so far we've got a lot of donations and a lot of contributions but we also like to find some more angels that are willing to sponsor these kids in the EOP and S. So if you guys would like to talk to me afterwards, I'd be more than happy to do so. >> Mr. Engeldinger? >> No announcements. >> None. >> None. >> None. >> None. >> Very good. We'll come to the president's report later on. >> Very good. Thank you. Item N, the approval of the minutes. May I have a motion to approve the minutes for meetings number 25 and 26, that's November 18 and December 2nd. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Great. Anything changed there, Trustee Mann? >> I have called some suggested changes to Mrs. Thompson, were those made? >> Yes. >> I don't see them, were they distributed? >> They're in your folder. I was just gonna say you would [inaudible]. >> Okay so I would move the--I have made a couple suggestions, mainly just moving things around to make it that they are in the folder. I can't find my folder. >> There are 2 revisions that were made, one of them to the November 18th, the other one to December 2nd so it should be in your right side of your packet of your folder. >> Very good. >> I don't have my folder but that's--so I would move--I would make move those changes and I could quickly just say one of them was the--on the meeting of the 18th on page 3 number C where Dr. [inaudible] spoke of the recently adopted management compensation schedule. I suggest that that should be new rather than recently adopted because it's been several months since it was adopted. And that the information that I had about the informal meeting with the newly elected board members should be an announcement and not under future board meetings because it was not the board official meeting, it was not a Brown Act meeting, so that is moved and changed. And then the only--I guess that was the only other one, was to move the--I think that was it. Was that it? Because those are [inaudible]. So I would move those. >> Very good. >> So when we vote, we're voting to adopt these revised copies. >> Right. >> All right, if there's no other discussion, all those in favor-- >> Advisory vote first. >> Oh advisory vote. >> Aye. >> And all those in favor. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Abstention for me, madame president since I wasn't there at the time. >> Abstention. >> With your abstentions, that makes sense that your not taking responsibility for them. Very good. Item P-- >> Don't we have 2? Was that for both sets of the minute4s? >> That was for both sets. >> Yeah. >> Okay, thank you. >> So you've trained me well. [ Laughter ] >> Approval of consent items, what I would like to do is entertain a motion to accept the consent items with a couple of provisos. We're going to pull 89-B, B-97657-0. In fact, that is being withdrawn. If not I'm not mistaken, that student recruitment media and what's being withdrawn and President Sugimoto's request. Number two, 89-B, that's B-97674-0, this one refers to the contract for academic search. We're gonna pull that simply for a separate vote. Dr. Hales [phonetic] is with us and we'll go to manage that altogether which makes logical sense. And then 94-B will also be pulled. This is the one about small business development center grant and so after taking care of the consent items, we will turn to staff for their recommendation on 94-B. So with that, let me go around the board and ask within the consent items. Is there any other--any others for discussion? Shall I go in the usual way? Student Trustee. >> None. >> Very good. Trustee Mann. >> 61-P. >> 61-P. Very good. Trustee Fellow. >> No, thank you. >> 85-B. >> 85-B. Trustee Mann--Trustee Baum. >> 92-B and 93-B. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> And Trustee Brown. >> None. >> Okay. So let's go in-- >> Sugimoto has one. >> Dr. Sugimoto. >> And I apologize and Dr. Mann I know you're--you had pulled 61-P. There was a revision to 61-P in your packet--in your folder. I'm not sure. >> I--I lost--I lost my folder over there. If someone can find it and hand it to me, it would be helpful. >> I'm not sure if this is the reason why you pulled it, but, anyway, I wanted to remind you that-- >> Okay, if you could just show me the revision. >> Or this. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> We'll have a quick look on that and see if you want us to come back. How about that? 92-B. >> 92-B. >> If everybody could turn the 92-B. This was an interesting item and I was pleased to see it that the Federal Government's--this--if I interpret this to be correct was as--we all talked about the Federal Government stimulus funding that was going to be trickling its way down through, finally trickled down to the Pasadena Area Community College District. And it's my understanding that we have a budget augmentation of almost 400,000 dollars, one-time funds. And so I wanted to get a little bit of background on that, the source of the funds, and then how we made the determination within the different categorical areas as to why certain programs got certain amounts of money compared to others. >> Thank you Trustee Baum. And Dr. van Pelt is here and he can [inaudible] and might be here to--who might be able to help us with the explanation, but yes, these are the stimulus funds that very little trickle down but we do have them, so Dr. van Pelt. >> We originally expected about 120 million dollars system-wide which theoretically would have translated to about 2 and a half million dollars for us. By the time it all whittled down, it was 385,000 dollars. These numbers are prescribed. This is what we had to do. >> Prescribed by the state? >> Prescribed by the state. >> All right, okay. And so because it doesn't necessarily reflect the priority that we place on each of these individual programs or to evaluate. >> No, and the answer is that we still augment these programs. If you recall, we did a 2-million dollar general fund transfer into the fund 3 in order to augment the--the tremendous losses that some of these programs faced. >> Uhm-hmm. But--so what this data is it just simply augmented what we previously had. >> Okay. That's an interesting question because I remember we have that discussion with the budget cuts and when we have the--what's formally PFE and other funding that would be used to go into these--these categoricals. When we lost the funding, we actually made budget choices to augment those areas. Well, this replaced some of the funding that we already put in those areas. We'll add to the--to the budget commitment that we've made to those areas. >> And those are slightly different things. Our money is the--what used to be PFE. >> Yeah. >> This is an addition to that. >> Okay. >> So these categorical programs, we move 2 million dollars from the general fund. >> Into the--to-- >> To the categoricals. >> Now, will this money replace some of the general fund money that we put into those categoricals or will it add to-- >> It will initially add to it and we will see if there are efficiencies to be made in order to carry it over in the next year. >> Okay. >> Very good. 93-B. >> I saw Jack Showman in the audience. I wanna give--give the opportunity to discuss the change orders and the one--big one that jumped out of me was the paving issue, a 200,000-dollar change order for the concrete mass fog driveway loading dock in pedestrian walkways and it was a change that we anticipated and--what's the background on that? >> Oh. Remember in the original design, it was supposed to be concrete, just flat straight concrete and that's not the standard. >> Wait, tell me specifically what it is-- >> This is the area down Tennis Hill from Hill Street into Alumni Drive and then up Alumni Drive. >> What's Alumni Drive? >> It's between the Industrial Tech and the W Building. >> Okay. So it's that road down--behind [inaudible]. >> Right. >> Okay. >> The new roadway between the new Industrial Technology Building and the W Building. >> And so now, what's--what's being--what's the change on it? >> Original plans were hatching only on Tennis Hill from Hill Street to Alumni Drive. From Alumni Drive south to just about even with the end of the Industrial Technology Building, it was just regular gray concrete. It wasn't the--the district standard that is throughout other campus with the ribbons and fields. And then from the end of the Campus Center at the south--west--southwest corner all the way to the back of the Campus Center around where the old loading dock used to be was, again, patched asphalt. During--during the demolition and during the--the new work and in an effort to bring the whole entrance in off of the Hill Street, Tennis Hill--along Tennis Hill and then join up with the roadway that was already done in front of facilities and in front of the chiller plant, and then we'll continue with the Arts Building. That asphalt was so badly damaged. They were just decided that we're gonna do it anyway. We've got a contractor here. We're getting good pricing. Some of the work was done by Dr. van Pelt and facilities. The rest of it as it occurred around North was done by the contractor and this changes for the area from the south side of the Industrial Technologies Building all the way back and around behind the campus, existing Campus Center Building. And then on the south side as well of the bookstore--the Bank Bookstore with new walkways they are consistent with the rest of the ribbons and fields that we do on the walkways. >> And just a question. Is there any reason we didn't expect that out when we started the project or was there something that changed in between because we fear, with all that action, we might have to resurface the road? [ Inaudible Remark ] >> During the design process, we were seriously intent on cutting costs and we always hoped for the best, and the reality is that it got so destroyed in the--in the process that it had to be replaced. One point, we had--we hoped that we would be able to preserve the roadway that's there. >> Right. >> And then it was a matter of tying it altogether to--and the reality is that concrete is a good deal, more cost effective than--than asphalt because asphalt breaks apart in a matter of about 7 years. >> Okay, so this is gonna be a concrete roadway, isn't gonna be asphalt. >> It is concrete. >> Okay. The last question, this is not really related to this. When are we gonna finish the Green Street entrance to the college? >> We just acquired the traffic lights and this is an integration issue with the City of Pasadena so we're working with the city right now to use their contractor, but, of course, at the moment it's the moratorium for the Tournament of Roses Parade. So the--the traffic lights have been received. We worked with the city so that we tagged along on the city's contract to acquire those lights. It's actually--we tried to open it sooner, but the--it's technically difficult by virtue of the fact that we're emptying out opposite of the one-way street at Green Street and therefore, the lights and the concrete in the intersection have to be dramatically redesigned. It's taken us about a year and a half to--to redesign it and get it through the city. So as soon as the tournament is over, we hope to have that accomplished. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. I think you're done. >> Uhm-hmm. >> All right. I don't actually have a motion on the floor, but if there's no more discussions-- >> 61-P. >> Oh, okay. Was that not taken care of? >> No, it isn't. That was one of the things. But I just wanted to comment on 61-P that Dorothy Burns, supervisor of payroll, is retiring after 22 years of service and in recognition of another one of our long term, loyal, and hardworking dedicated employees. >> Thank you for recognizing her. >> You're welcome. >> Now, maybe I'm wrong but I thought somebody had pulled 85-B to discuss. Trustee Thomson. >> I did. Yeah. I'm not sure I understand this, but it looks like we're paying 143,000 dollars for a copying machine. What am I missing? >> Dr. van Pelt? >> We are indeed. There's--there's a very large copying machine that's in the office services that is the central machine for the campus and this is a replacement of old technology. >> Is it made of platinum or something or [laughs] [ Laughter ] >> It's--it's an enormous machine and it is extremely multifunctional, and the costs have decreased and will decrease to the students and the amount of work that we can do on that machine is dramatically different from the old machine which will save us outsourcing from when publications does some of their work as well. And if there are specific questions, Sherry Hassan [phonetic] can certainly answer them. >> It just seemed very expensive for a copying machine. >> I'd like to point out, it's at the very bottom, last paragraph. We're not actually--we don't purchase the equipment outright. It's a 5-year lease and it's sort of making payments of roughly 29,000 dollars a year and it's a charge back to the departments that make request of reprographic materials. Juan Gutierrez was here earlier. >> He's here. He's here. >> Oh, he's right here and office services works very closely with Juan and Gilbert Rivera on items that normally go out for production and will be able to do more items in-house which will reduce the cost to publications. >> If we were to purchase the machine, what would it cost? >> Oh, I don't know. I could find that information out for you. >> Well, it's--it's not critical. It's just that the total cost for a single machine caught my eye, obviously, and it--it just seems horrendously expensive to--to do this, but if it this is the least expensive or the best way we're gonna do it, then I guess that's where we are. >> It is one of the workhorses on the campus. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> I guess just for a point of comparison, I believe there are other more expensive copier machines that we even have on campus because I remember making an investment in some even more powerful machines. >> Well, I think that the old machines were more expensive as well and they did last. The old Xeroxes? >> That's correct. Even though it states that there was not a formal bid process because we piggybacked off of a--a bid that had been done by LA County, we did do an informal process. We contacted Canon, Xerox, Kodak-- >> Ricoh. >> Well, Ricoh had the final so there were at least four. I think probably five companies that gave us a proposal. And we started working on this almost a year ago. >> Just my understanding, this isn't just your average office copier? This is something that you can publish books. >> Oh, no. no. >> We have a--many Kincos on the first floor of the C Building where we lined--oh we did the production for Meg, the documents that you received for our educational master plan. That was all done in-house. Your packets are done in-house. We go out very, very little on this campus and we wanna reduce that to almost nothing if possible. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anything else from consent items? So let's have a motion to approve. >> Dr. Bradbury-Huang, could you repeat the ones that we're gonna vote separately on? >> Sure. Where are you pencil? So there are three items, 89-B. I believe it's the first one if I recall, the Student Recruitment Media. The number is B-97657-0. Also, in 89-B, it's B-97674-0. That's the contract for the academic search. Okay. And then the third is 94-B. That's the Small Business Development Center Grant and I think there was something else. Didn't you say there was something else? >> So those three we're gonna vote separately on? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Are--are we actually pulling the Student Recruitment Media for a vote-out? We're not going to be voting on that at all. >> That--that's right. That's withdrawn. >> Okay. So that's withdrawn and then the--then the Academic Search Contract in 94-B we're pulling for a separate vote. Is that correct? >> There will be a separate vote under item S, gonna handle it altogether. And in 94B once we're done here, I'm gonna turn to the administration and ask for their recommendations so we can cross this dialog. >> Okay. >> So with those caveats. >> Move approval. >> Sir. >> All those in favor of Student SD? All those in favor? >> Aye. >> Aye. >> That was an aye. Any no's? Any abstention? Very good. So let's--we're gonna take care of the student business development center now. >> What should probably the next that you--since you've pulled back consent item and Dean Hodge is in the audience and would like to do--make a presentation on the SBDC grant proposal and what's coming around now as additional information that he has provided us. >> And as Dean Hodge comes to the podium, would you offer staff's recommendation on this one? >> Initially, when Dean Hodge came to executive committee, he presented a grant proposal that did not have a district cash match and the administration had determined that that would be fine if we move ahead after a visit by the Long Beach City Colleges Economic Development Department. They had requested a 150,000-dollar cash commitment on top of the in-kind commitment and we had initially said that if there was any cash commitment, we would not be in favor of recommending that proposal go forward. So that is where the administration stands. We'd like to hear from Dean Hodge because he may have additional information that might be critical to the board's thinking on this grant, but at this point, the administration would say if there is an additional 150,000 dollars that we could not support the proposal. Okay so I'm gonna invite Dean Hodge to offer his--his perspective on this and then we'll open up for questions so that we all fully understand what's on the table before we vote. Thank you Dean Hodge. >> Okay, thank you to the Board Chair and to the President, to the Trustees to help clarify the process that we've gone through on this SBDC. So what I've given you on the first page is an overview. The second page firstly gets into the detail of the budget changes or the things we've had to do and then third pages and proceeding pages represent all of the organizations that are in support of the grant as we proposed it. On the first page, you know, I was tasked by the previous president in March of '08 to pursue this opportunity. She had been approached by the SBA because they knew at that time if there may be a potential closure of the SBDC by Mt. SAC. So I did my research and pursued it and gathered a lot of information, shared that with the President, then in Spring of '09, so we're talking now about six months later, I had conversations with Long Beach Community College District who is the--the governing body over the SBDCs in this region and I spoke with their director about the opportunity for PCC. There was expressed interest from them that we consider going off for the grant, then in May of 2009 we learned in Mt. SAC had announced closure of their SBDC. We can talk about those reasons if you have those questions. August 17, the RFP came out for the grant and it was released. August 28, I attended the bidder's conference which gave us more details about specifics and how the grant should be prepared, and it was interesting that I was the only college there so I got--you know, full participation from the committee that gave the information. October the 15th was the extended--I mean the original deadline for the proposal. It was then extended to October the 28th. It is, of course, a competitive grant and so they've decided that we needed an extension of all those competing. November 20, there was a site visit. That site visit then met that we had become a finalist in the process and they visited the Pasadena Enterprise Center which is donated space here in Pasadena, and then we went from here to Pomona, to the chamber which is donated space in Pomona. We had a good site visit and I'll talk about that in a second, then the next two pieces of this process would be by December 30. They are anticipating an award notification and then the grant would commence in January, on the 1st to December the 31st. It is a one-year grant. It does have the potential to be renewable if the performance outcomes are met and if the budget outcomes are met. So now, I'll share with you quickly that from the site visit, we learn three things that it--they felt it was a good proposal and they were impressed by the amount of support that we were able to solicit. And I have shared that on the back page in this--this handout. There were 19 letters of support, a pretty extensive group of individuals and--and organizations, then they were favorable toward our site locations. They were very impressed by the fact that we--they had covered the region pretty well which extends from Pasadena east all the way to Pomona and then south, even into Diamond Bar. But the three locations that we chose which is Pasadena, Industry and Pomona, they were impressed that we could appropriately cover the region. And then the budget did need revisions. We learned that it--we proposed 388,000 and that would be 150,000 of the SBA portion and then we would match that 150,000. When we submitted our proposal as President Sugimoto said, we submitted it as an in-kind match. Based upon our reading of the graph, we felt we could do it that way. After the site visit, they then said, we really needed to see that match expressed in the cash column. And so based upon that, they asked that I would still send them a revision, not that the revision would be in the official approved budget, but they wanted to make sure that--that we understood what their requirements were and in order to stay in the process, we had to submit a revision. I did submit a revision, shared it with President Sugimoto and Nancy Roberts. We worked on it and submitted it, but the very next thing then that--that Long Beach did was sent an e-mail to the President asking that she agreed to three points related to the budget primarily before they felt comfortable that we could, you know, still compete. Dr. Sugimoto then asked for an extension, time to come to the board to have this discussion so that, you know, there would not be an official, you know, approval by PCC on those three points until the board had an opportunity to review this. So that's currently why we're here at this point. It didn't come to the board initially because, initially, it was submitted without a cash match. So it wasn't necessarily--necessarily to come to the board without a cash commitment, but after the site visit and I indicated that there needed to be a cash match, that suddenly then meant that we did needed--need to bring it to the board. I'll mention two other things on the summary page. The--under budget implications, the in-kind amount that is now a cash match has not significantly changed that is in total or in substance, but it has changed our commitment and the intent from Long Beach is that we can ensure that the director of the SBDC which we would hire has the ability to decide how the budget will be spent. So their intent behind making sure that that money is shown under the cash match is for that purpose. The director would report to me and in that working relationship, we would make sure that there is clear internal controls and procedures. I'll talk about the director a little bit further. There are two future opportunities you should also know about. One is that we have been granted, that is CEC, a small business development grant through Adam Shift's office. These are Federal earmark funds and according to Nancy Roberts, they--we anticipate that those funds will come to the district around April. It is a 150,000-dollar grant. That money actually represents the same activity that we would be doing in the SBDC because it is a small business development grant. That's one opportunity that is basically is for real. It's already promised. It's already been posted on Adam Shift's website. The Chancellor's Office just released an RFA for another opportunity called new grant opportunities which includes a 205,000-dollar grant for establishing a business entrepreneur center. I participated recently in a teleconference on how that grant works and this grant, if awarded, can be considered a cash match for the SBDC that we're talking about, and, in fact, that would share with us from the committee that came out and did the site visit. One of their representatives was from the Chancellor's Office and he said, by the way, if you apply for this grant, that money can actually represent your cash match. So, that kinda gives you an overview and now I'm--I'm, you know, glad to go into the detail, but are there any questions at this point? >> Yeah. I'd like you to clarify a couple of things. In a few sentences, what would the center actually do? >> Okay. The center would work specifically with aspiring entrepreneurs and those that already have businesses established to help them increase their capacity, get loans through various sources, work on business plans, develop opportunities to grow their business. So it's really helping small business owners in the region to be successful. >> So are those folks already in business? Are those folks wishing to be in business? >> Both, both. >> Okay. >> So it supports both categories. >> Okay. I heard you say one year. This whole thing is just to fund one year? >> It is to fund one year, but it certainly is renewable. So if the center performs at the expected levels and that they made the outcomes, because those outcomes go directly to the SBA, Federal Government, then--then the sense is that you will be renewed. So--but they like to keep it in one year especially in the beginning to make sure that the center is viable in doing what it's supposed to do. >> Just like a probationary period. And then you mentioned that there were three budget items that came back to President Sugimoto. Are these written somewhere? What are they? >> They were sent in an e-mail to Dr. Sugimoto. Dr. Sugimoto, do you wanna speak to those? >> Yeah. I apologize. I don't have them. One of--one of them had to do with the 150,000-dollar cash match. The e-mail came from Shinny [phonetic] Webber and it certainly said that the in-kind money would be there as well as the 150,000-dollar cash match and those were the two primary ones. And the third one, I apologize, because I can't remember what it said and I'm trying to think--I didn't bring that in my--my document. >> Yeah. I think the third one was really just an understanding about the reimbursement process, and that-- >> Yes, it was. You're absolutely right. >> Yeah. >> It was about the reimbursement and how we would spend the money and know it if was being reimbursed. >> And then reimburse quarterly. >> Very good, okay. So it's 150K in cash, 150K in kind plus reimbursement. Okay, excellent. >> Yes. So that expanded the number of dollars involved from 388 to our renewed proposal of 608,000. So, if there are no other questions, I'll go into the detail for you to really understand what--how we-- >> Well, let me--let me just check. Are there other questions? >> Just one question. It would--walk us through, so those are that's hypothetically--I wanna start a new business and I've got, you know, myself and my wife or something like that. How would I work with the SBDC to be able to--the small business district to be able to set up this business? >> Okay. Well, you'd make an appointment with the business adviser, and that business adviser would sit down and have a general consultation with the individual to talk about how starting a business works, what kind of tools and resources you might need to be successful, and then they certainly explore. Do you have the capital? Have you thought through a business plan? Do you have the ability to sustain a business if you start one? And certainly talk about the failure and success rates of businesses. The key would be knowing what the person wants to do and trying to leave them to the right set of resources. Of course, the SBA itself has a lot of those resources. They have loans. They have special programs depending on the industry, but in addition to that, we have our local banks. We have, you know, capital lenders. We have all sorts of individuals in the community. They are trying to invest in various projects so that's the other function of--of an SBDC. >> So it potentially--it not only helps to educate the prospective small business owner as to what to do to put together a business but also could lead that individual to potential sources of revenue to be able to start the business. >> That's correct. Now, if it's an established business, it's a little different 'cause now we're talking about possibly--okay, so we need personnel. That's your biggest asset and you mean good--good personnel. They need to be trained and that's where there's a great link to the college because we can offer a lot of educational resources for those who need training in HR areas or in personnel areas, or in customer service, so forth. So the counseling now that establishes--I mean the works within an established business is really designed now to take them to the next level whether that's in--in their capital funding or whether that's in their business plan or in their marketing or in their public relations, whatever they're doing. >> And it has anybody in the area done a survey to determine what the need is for this type of a facility? >> Well, yeah. In the letters of support that we've--you have some of them and I'll refer specifically to the San Gabriel Valley Economic Partnership who--whose executive director is Cynthia Kurtz. She was the former city manager for Pasadena City. In her letter, she specifically talks about the expressed need for strongly supporting an SBDC in the region. She says small businesses are the primary source of jobs, especially in the San Gabriel Valley where approximately 85 percent of our job base is in small business. And there was a recent article in the LA Journal that talked about how many of the loans that the SBA had previously distributed have really been cut back and you've all seen the news about how the banks are not lending. And so that is why we've recently seen President Obama come out and say, "Well, we have additional funding, 200 billion that we want to infuse to small business." So in this article, L.A. Business Journal, what they've discovered is that the large banks and the large lenders are going in a different direction because they're trying to protect their assets. The smaller banks are now coming in and in specific to this area in this article. It mentioned that East West Bank has slightly increased both the number and size of their SBA loans and in 2009 they made 19 loans for 8 million. It also mentions Bank of the West based in San Francisco who is also a smaller bank that is, you know, working to establish themselves as the business lender. You'll also be interested to note that Wells Fargo is one of our letters of support and we have good relationship with them, and they basically said, "If you get established, we'll support you and we'll find ways to, you know, add to--to the match that you currently have. >> Thank you very much. >> I have a question before you go into the-- >> I think Dr. Fellow had his hand up. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> No, I did. >> Oh, you did. I'm sorry. >> Okay. I have a question before you go into anymore detail. They asked us 150,000-dollar cash match. I was very fortunate to attend the Community College League Conference last month and had the chancellors speak, and I gave a very fine address which I know he had spent a lot of time working on. And he--he called on the colleges to focus in on three things and to pair back their offerings, and the three things he said were transfer, career technical, and basic skills. And he went into a kind of detail on, you know, what things that would mean that would have to maybe not to be offered or be offered in a different--in a different way. Now, I know that--that economic development is one of the--the roles of the community college. If I look at the 150,000 dollars and using the 6,000 dollars which I was told both by here and San Francisco State uses that a class costs. That's 25 classes. And I don't know--I don't know what board should talk about first is--do we wanna spend--I put up 150,000 dollars cash because although there are ways we might get them money, we actually may not and might have to pay for it ourselves and I don't know where in the budget it would--it would come from. I don't think we have any money sitting aside that--that we can use and this is--this is really my concern. So that's what I would like to have addressed whoever can do that. >> Okay. Well, I'll try. >> Okay. >> And I have two answers. The first is general, the other a more specific. The general answer is that, currently at CEC, we operate a 6-1/2-million dollar budget. Of that 6-1/2 million, about a million and two is in grant money. So when I look at how we would spend the 150,000 of that amount of money, it--I'm in a position where I can do some things that are a little more difficult for the credit side of the house because the credit side of the house primarily focuses on instruction, whereas, the committee at center focuses on instruction plus a lot of programs. So as you know, for instance, we're in, you know--we're in 40 different locations around the community with pyramid. We have foster care. We have an entrepreneur program. We--we got all these additional programs which a lot of those are grant funded. So I--I agree with you that, certainly, 150,000 dollars is a commitment that we have to really think about, but I do think we're in the unique position at CEC that the other divisions were not in given the way that our budgets work in the number of programs that we offer and the grants that we have. So that's my general answer. The specific answer is actually the detail that I'm gonna go into that'll help answer the question. So if you don't mind, I'll go to that page. Okay. So the second page breaks in into three areas, the SBA portion of the grant. Now, this is the new revised, the 608,000 and then the PCC/CEC portion, and then the in-kind portion. So under the SBA portion which totals 300,000, it would actually support the way we've written a grant, one director and benefits, 100 percent full time person, three business advisers who are hourly so there are very little benefits involved, one college assistant, a 900-hour person, travel operating supplies for the three sites, contracts with support of five public events and advertising, and 77 percent of brochures, flyers at pieces and website advertising. So that would all be paid through the SBA portion of the grant. No money out of our pockets. The next area is money out of our pockets and this would have to support five business advisers. The reason why it's so many is because the grant requires that 40 percent of the total budget is business advisers so the only way to make that work was to put that amount of business advisers under our portion. But here's how we would do it. Three of those five would actually come from currently employed staff. We have a career center. Their background is in helping people get jobs and so forth. So I shared those resumes in the grant and we would basically split their time between CEC and this operation. And actually, that can be a good thing for them because in the current economy, we've had to cut back in our career center so we cut hours. This now enables us to increase hours for those individuals. So it's not like they're "being pulled away from the center." They're actually being able to get more money and earn more, and help us with the SBDC. Now, I will make sure we do that in the very beginning. So in the very beginning, we would only have three advisers. I wouldn't hire the two additional people until much later in the year when we have to have more people, but to start, we'd only start with existing people, then the college assistants--we would have to, again, use three assistants that we currently already have employed and, by the way, at CEC, we currently now have 63 college assistants so we're talking 3 out 63 that we would use for this operation and, again, same thing. We cut back hours. We wouldn't--they wouldn't be losing hours from CEC, but they get additional hours now. And then graphic artist, we've donated her time--15 percent of her time toward this to help with the PR pieces and so forth and she also is currently employed with us. So--so our portion of the 156,000 is basically comprised of existing people. So that's why I say that the putting it in the cash column really doesn't significantly alter our commitment 'cause that was our commitment in the original proposal to using kind people. So now we're the same, well we pay them anyway to do their services. So we require to put them in the cash column than, yeah, then we're still gonna use those people that we put in the [inaudible] column. So I don't know if that's clear but that's so the approach of how we will use those resources and how we would meet that 156,000. And the final piece is the 152,000, that's the in [inaudible] match, and for that, most of those were donated from outsiders. Some of those have [inaudible] CEC but they are items that are on the shelf not being used or they're, you know, used equipment and so forth. So supplies from donations the warehouse and from storage 23 percent of the vouchers fliers and pieces, we have very active printing technology program at our campus and much of what we do is also in house like you heard Cherry talk about the Colorado campus. Minor equipment, use of office copiers, paper faxes phones, now that's donated from those 3 locations they will allow us to use office base, all their faxes all their phones and all their equipment and their computers. Postage, very little postage and then donated office space which you can see from the 3 locations. So that kind of gets into the budget detail, certainly there maybe some questions. >> Yes I have a question. So these 3 business advisors, they are currently employed staff, they will be paid with whatever funds you're using now and they will just be reassigned? >> Correct. But not just a reassignment, they'll be split. So they'll be doing, still they work at CEC. >> They'll be doing 2 jobs. >> And they'll be doing 2 jobs. >> Okay, so what--what you're saying the way I hear it is CEC is juts going to--is just going to reassign people to cover it--. >> In the beginning I meant. >> And they will not require anymore money from the college? >> Well it will later because you noticed there are 2 advisors to be hired. >> Okay. >> Now, remember I am getting a 150,000 in April, so that's why I'm saying later because that money can certainly be used in the same way where they can work with that operation out of CEC but I split their time between that and the SBDC 'cause it's the exact same work. >> Okay. >> Then on that page, the interim director would actually, 'cause they prefer an interim if we don't have the ability to hire a person right away and we don't, because the grant has started, the money is not here. So we will wanna hire an interim for 3 months that shows them that we--you know, or can get up and running right from the start and Brandon Shamim [phonetic] is the person that we've talked to about this. He is currently in the audience. He is the president of Beacon management group. So he has his own company but more particularly he's been chair of the small business council for the greater LA chamber and former interim director for the US Department of Commerce minority of business enterprise and former advisory board member at Mt. SAC. So if you have questions about why Mt. SAC closed their center, he can certainly answer 'cause he was on their board. >> Where is he? >> He is right there. >> Thank you Dean Hodge [phonetic] and thank to the board for recognizing me to have a chance to speak. I'm actually going invoke Senator Bobby Kennedy if not us who, if not now when? And with that, I'd like to really share with you a--there were lot of missteps internally with Mt. San Antonio College in terms of how they were managing that, but I'm hopeful that the missteps that I would now of course only editorialized and state this. A lot of it was that there was not a lot of sustainable strategy on the front end of how they could take those monies that they were provided and this is the same amount of dollars that they were also provided to be able to do this. To leverage a lot of those resources that existed in the private sector. One of the things that you haven't maybe heard as much from Dean Hodge of course he's been very conservative in the projections but there's a preponderance of opportunity and activity that exist within the San Gabriel Valley with large employers that are willing and are interested in because it is part of their mission to be able to do economic development. One of the ways that they're able to capitalize it and be able to fulfill their mission is actually through the small business development center. This is fact because it is done traditionally to wrap the entire Southern California region from Santa Barbara to San Diego. So, there is a lot of opportunities to augment, a lot of resources that are not being even reflected in the conversation here today but would be made available if and when the board and PCC would want to perhaps moving that direction. If there are any specific questions to what transpired with the previous SBDC I'd be happy to entertain those. >> Or perhaps, any questions in general? Trustee Baum? >> First, I want to preface this by saying I would like to see in a small business development center in the San Gabriel Valley. I think it's important in our community and to our business community and I think we have an interest in trying to see that this happen. I have a few questions about this proposal because today is the first time we've gotten a more comprehensive understanding of what that means for the Pasadena Community College District. First is the--going back to the funding. You mention a couple of times, you're anticipating 150,000 dollar grant from Congressman Schiff. We know how the federal budget it goes. You know what--how do we know that's really coming and then--and if--and how would do we know or forgetting an earmark from the Federal Government, this would be the place where we would invest that funding and has that gone through the colleges kind of decision making process about. If we get 150,000 dollar Federal Government in earmarked, what would we devote it to? >> Okay. When we wrote--when I wrote that grant we actually submit it through our grants office and there were other grants that were written also. I think we submitted about nine different grants to--through Adam Schiff's office 'cause he knew about funding they would becoming. This grant was awarded and then announced by Adam Schiff this summer. In the announcement, he clearly said that this grant which was for small business development will be awarded to PCC so it's published in an article that he put out and he notified our president at the time. She also made a statement of thank you to Adam Schiff's office. And then recently, we asked Nancy Roberts to call his office and find out specifically when with the amount of money be allocated and what is the process? We were told that Congress merely has to sign a bill and then the President has to sign it but because it's earmarked that the opportunity for this is sure as earmark can be. >> Right. >> It's a little different from stimulus 'cause stimulus as you know--as you heard earlier is going through all this iterations. Earmark is earmark and we got one out of nine and so I know that Adam Schiff's office is committed to seeing that we get it. Now he can't guarantee it but congress-- >> Yeah. >> So what it sounds like 'cause--and Congressman Schiff sits on their appropriations committee and it might have made it through the appropriations committee. >> Yes. >> But it hasn't made it through the federal government budget process where the budget has been adopted. The earmarks remain and the President signs it and the Treasury Department-- >> That's correct. [Inaudible Remark ] >> That's correct. >> So, there's still a lot of hoops to go through. >> There are. >> To do that-- >> There are. >> And that budget might happen in April and might happen much later-- >> It could. >> With that too. >> And that--and just to add to that. And that is part of why I think it certainly would be judicious if we can go out for the Chancellor Office grant. >> Sure. >> That does the same thing-- >> Not I think. >> And has more money. >> When we made that grant request through Congressman Schiff's office did we say this is for a small business development center or do we'd say this is for worker training in revision. >> We said it's for small business development because we currently operate an Entrepreneur Program and CEC. And so it fit nicely with that part--that existing program. >> Sure. Okay so, we said this is for small business development but not for specifically for the same group-- >> That's correct. >> And then we--what do we do currently where at CEC to promote small business development. >> Okay. Well, we do that through Entrepreneur Program. Currently we have four courses that are approved at the Chancellor's Office that we operate each semester. In addition to that we hold public events so in the past three years that we've had a Miller Brewing Company Grant. We've been able to host four public events where we bring in potential business owners and entrepreneur and talk about how to start their business-- >> So, we have a robust program of small business development through the Entrepreneur Program. >> That's correct. >> We have public events, other courses. There is one-on-one counseling that we currently offer-- >> We haven't been able to do the one-on-one consultation because of funding-- >> Okay. >> So, that's the piece that this additional funds can give us. >> Sure. And then I wanna get to the grant proposal and some of the indirect set we're proposing here. One thing that caught my eye is most usually with the Federal Government grant. You indirect cost that the institution can charge to a grant is usually pretty significant and here it's about five percent-- >> Yes. >> Where it's usually more than 20 percent. So, the grant proposal as it stands is we're reducing the indirect that the college would realize from this grant, because it's still. It all takes funding and grants administration person, and our budget office, and others to do that. Do we--everybody signed off on the reduction it for a federal grant for the indirect to be trimmed so significantly. >> Yeah, now. This is where and need the expertise of Nancy who does the grants for us. But, I can tell you that in the in [inaudible] match column that indirect totals 76,286 dollars. We verified that with Long Beach and they do allow for that. So there's a formula that they used in terms of how you used that, that indirect, so the amount isn't say 30,000 it's actually 76,000. >> Okay, so I see that. And so, where do we--we're covering the indirect with ordinarily realized through federal grant through our in kind matching of--and so pledging the college resources-- >> That's correct. >> The last question I have at the stage two is my concern about PCC and I hope you can address this. Doing this right now is that we have a very thin management team at PCC. I look at all--I look around the table and how many in the rooms we have and things like that. How do I--how can the conference we have the capacity to actually give you a 900,000 dollar enterprise to run when you already have a big community [inaudible] center to manage as well with that's running full tilt, morning, noon, night and weekends-- >> Yes. >> How can we do that this-- >> Well in that-- >> Do I get to put you in a position where you're doing three jobs at once and then people are gonna say. What we need to know compensate our CEC director because of--as a result of all this added responsibilities. >> And that's a good question. It's also a concerned that our President has had. You know which is how do I use my time with this and you know to make sure that my intention is focused on CEC. My answer to that is, you noticed that the director of this program has to have full responsibility for each of the locations. So they expect the director to be responsible to operate those three locations. Of course now, that director will report to me. So, my role really would be in overseeing the management what the director does and I think you can tell from the experience from this interim director that we're gonna make sure that's a quality person whose got experience who understand this business very well and who can basically advise me on what are the right things to do. My role will largely be focused on reaching out to our partners on advisory and which is the first thing we would do and then start talking about raising capital. Can we raise capital to sustain this operation and to replace any of the funds that we've committed? So and maybe--and also to write a grant--another grant as we've talked about through the Chancellor's Office to see if we can cover that cash match completely. So, I really don't see that this is gonna take a whole lot of my time and I'll mention one more thing. We currently have operated for the last three years a KC grant and that total over the last three years over 700,000 that goes away because of the state budget cuts. It goes away December 31st that took about 20 percent of my time. It's gone. So now I really do have the ability to devote you know even less of that 20 percent toward this. So that would be my answer. >> And so you're also saying this requires no additional compensation for staff? >> No. >> Like that-- >> No. >> For existing staff. >> No. >> So that we won't have to realize that extra thing. Then also, how do we get into alignment because as Dr. Sugimoto shared there's a concern within the administration too. Do we have 150,000 dollars to invest in this? Do we have the staff and human resources to invest in this at a time when as Dr. Mann has correctly pointed out the chancellor says, "You need to focus on your core mission because the state budget situation in getting--isn't getting any better it's getting worse." >> Yes. >> And so--and how do we do that? >> Yeah. And I repeat what I said earlier that I will make sure that the people that we use we're adding to their hours. We're not actually subtracting from what they're already giving as at the center. So, the center in essence doesn't lose any amount of service it's just that those individuals now can kinda get back to where they were a couple of years ago when we didn't have these cuts because they could, you know, do four hours at full pay and now we have to cut them back. In fact, I'm--you know, I'm afraid of losing some of those good people because we cut them back. This allows me to keep them and they still give us full activity and we don't lose any of their activity. >> Are there other questions, anything to be resolved before we call the question? >> I have a thought. Excuse me. Well, I am really--I really like what I heard about this new way of thinking out of the box, really to get this business that could help stimulate economic growth for the students that are going down to the center and the fact that we are getting a grant and I understand that it's not 100 percent at this point but it seems that it will be promising. I think the director seemed to that didn't seem to--the dean seemed to have done a lot of work on this project and it would be something that we may need to look into a little further to see if it could actually take place. I am sure that it will benefit our school and as like I said the outcome could be very good for the students that are having problems, people who need jobs, who need training. The school down there could--if they get this grant and get this program instituted they could very well bring in people to train and I see it as a positive thing. So, I would really like to maybe if we could give it some thought. >> Madam President, I just want to mention to you to disclose that I am on the Executive Committee of the San Gabriel Valley Partnership which believe this is a very good project for the San Gabriel Valley and for PCC and I do not believe it's a conflict that I vote on this but I wanted to disclose that. >> That's right. Actually, Trustee Brown's comments posed at least for me a question that the timeliness of this. >> Meaning, when would it start? When would it--? >> Well, one way of understanding what Trustee Brown was saying was, you know, we can take this under advisement perhaps and come back to it. Clearly there are--there are many benefits here but I'm wondering if there're time constraints. >> Well, somewhat. Given that they sent the President--our President the e-mail that they want her to respond to. >> In speaking with the Long Beach City College SPDC director who came out and did the visit. She let me know that she would really doing us--allowing us to do a clarification and giving us an opportunity for the Board to discuss this. They will need to authorize the grant by the 30th and they have given their VP of Admin Services the authorization to award the grant between yesterday and the 30th, it's my understanding they had a board meeting last night. So, what they are waiting for is whether or not this Board would authorize 150,000 or actually that is exactly what they request. If in fact the Board chooses to do that then I would write a commitment letter indicating that we would go ahead and support this grant and 150,000 dollars of a catch match. >> And if we were unable to reach a conclusion this evening but yet saw the benefits of where this is going do we miss the vote? >> Yes. >> Yes, essentially-- [ Laughter ] >> Yes. >> Yeah, essentially, essentially yes. [ Simultaneous Talking ] >> Essentially they know that the Board will be discussing this tonight and I would be giving them a call first thing in the morning so under those circumstances, yes. >> Very good. Folks, we particularly have not heard from Student Trustee. >> I do believe that this can--that does have the, I guess--this can be a very promising program but I think the main question that we need to ask is where's this money gonna come from? I think that'd be the main thing that we have to look at and I just--just considering how we--how our budget has been in recent times I would just like to see what--'cause if you take away from one side--if you put money in one pot I guess you have to take it from another pot and I think that would be the big question we have to ask ourselves. Will it be the--these implications of reallocating these funds? Sure, it's sort of--I would say it's always tempting, you know, to say you put some money and you get more back. It's always tempting. But I kind of see it as, you know, if there's a shirt on sale for 100 dollars and then you can get it for 20 but if you don't have the 20 it doesn't matter. If there's 80 dollars saving. >> Eighty. >> Because you don't have that 20. So, I sort of see that as an example of that. You know, it's a--it can be a promising program however we would have to see where we can take these funds from. That would--that's the real question that we have to ask ourselves. >> Very good. Thank you. Did I see a hand up anywhere else? [ Inaudible Remark ] >> Yeah. >> I believe Trustee Mann had her hand up first. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> I wanna hear from new voices before I return. >> That's fine then. Just a couple of quick questions, your program--before you lost the funding from the state how long was it in service? >> Before we? >> Before we lost funding from the state? >> Oh, for the KC program? >> Yes. >> Three years. >> Three years? And from what I understand it seems like the biggest benefit to the students would be employment opportunities, is that correct? >> For our students especially 'cause our students are actually older being noncredit than they are credit and most of our students have families, have commitments, need jobs so when--and 90 percent of our students do not transition to the main campus about 10 percent due and that is the state average. So, yeah the majority of our students want employment. >> Okay. And do we have any statistics on students actually have obtained employment through the program of yours? >> Yeah, well in fact I'd say on average we help employ about six or about a half dozen to a dozen per month through our Career Center. >> Uh-huh, okay and this is through the CEC or the Career Center? >> Through the CEC Career Center. We have our own Career Center. >> Okay. >> Just bring the numbers. >> Mr. Thomson. >> Well, I actually attended the meeting of the San Gabriel Valley Economic Partnership of which Mr. Hodge made a presentation with respect to this and as he said it was quite well received and as Tony has pointed out, certainly the partnership is fully supportive of our going--they had with us and it's--the belief is that we need to have a program of this nature in the San Gabriel Valley that'll benefit all of us and I think there is truth in that. I guess what--I would like to see support this but only on the--only with the understanding that as Mr. Hodge has described this the 150,000 dollars of 156,000 dollars that we're being asked to present is--would come from the three business advisers who are currently employed, we'll not hire the other two until we find out whether we get the Adam Schiff money or some other source. The three college assistants, our currently employed aides and a graphic artist likewise is currently employed as an aide. As I understand what you're telling us that basically means that we can provide this 156,000 dollars without actually spending anymore money from the college is that correct? >> That's correct. >> And on that basis since we have a deadline of the 30th of this month by which something is going to happen or not happen I would support going ahead and making that proposal but only with the understanding that the 156,000 dollars were expected to put up for this comes as Mr. Hodge has described and as I have just articulated. >> Trustee Mann? >> Mr. Thomson said what I was going to say that if the money does not involve reallocation of any district funds, the only question I have is if none of this money that you're expecting comes through I would like it to be a clear understanding that the district won't be expected to bail you out and I will--I'm sorry Mr. Martin is not here but we did have a entrepreneurial type program for many years that every year will come up about 160 and 180,000 dollar short and we had to take general funds and--to keep it going. So, it would be my understanding that if I vote for this that if something happens and this other money doesn't come forward. The district will not be expected to bail it out. You will find the money. If you have to--I don't know go over and knock over a few gas stations or something. [ Laughter ] >> Yeah. Well-- >> Don't do that. >> I won't do that but-- >> Strike that from the record. [ Laughter ] >> But I would like a little verification because you heard me say we have about a million to in grants which is not district funds but, you know, granted funds. >> Right. >> Am I able to use any of those if, you know, if I need too? >> As far as I'm concerned as long is it doesn't involve new money coming from district funds. >> Yes. >> Money that's under your control you can use however you want to within terms of the grant. >> Yeah, okay. >> That would be my understanding. >> Okay. >> Okay. President Sugimoto. >> And on Dr. Mann's comment too, just be assured that those grants are being spent in the appropriate way so that they are meeting the guidelines of the grant. So if you're going to expend them and--to support this. >> Absolutely. We make sure we'll comply with the grant requirements and the outcomes in each of those areas. >> Trustee Baum. >> One of the great things about community colleges is the--is that we can be more entrepreneurial and innovative in other segments of higher ed. and that's a climate I want to encourage at PCC. One of the things though that I wanna discuss very candidly though too is in order for an entrepreneur idea to be successful I believe there needs to be an alignment of support within the institution and so, you know, I'm a big fan of yours and everything that you've done at CEC. But I need to hear from the administration the--what you've articulated about your priorities and management of your role within CEC and if this were to come to be the--a new priority with some--to be managed has the support of the Vice President for Academics, the President of the College so that--because you are going to have to reallocate how you do your job in order to make this happen and do you have the support of the institution to do that. >> Okay. >> And so, I need to hear from the institution what they--whether that's the case because I wouldn't wanna say the board mandates the program and we have a significant segment of the administration because--not behind it. And so, I would like to hear from the Vice President and the instruction of President of the college. >> Dr. Mann I mean-- >> Okay, through all the steps I've been aware of what was going on and I support what we are proposing. One of the things that we've really wanted to do for a long time was to jumpstart our contract ed. and economic development areas because that's how a lot of institutions are really doing well inspite of the cutbacks because they have funds that are coming in from contract ed. that they can put in the job fund to help the courses go that we want to offer. Glendale, you know, brags about how they have given a million dollars last year, a year before to the institution from their development center. We have within and it's almost embarrassing. We have Glendale and some of the other institutions who are--have clients within our district because we are--don't have contract ed. established so that we can service them. The businesses want service so they are going where they get can get service so they go to Glendale and the surrounding areas. So, back to this I think that this would help us to be able to jumpstart that to make these contacts with the businesses and possibly to have the training opportunities and things of that sort. Now, as for what is happening at CEC with what Dr. Hodge is I mean, Mr. Hodge has been doing. Dean Hodge has been doing and some of the things that he will not be doing, he will have time to fill those in and in as much as SBA wants to have a director that's directly responsible and that person would be reporting to the Dean then that gives him the leeway to be on the broader part but for the day to day and all of the running and operations, we have--we would have the director doing that. So, it wouldn't interfere with his ability to do and carry on at CEC. That's the first priority and then there are some reorganizational things that we would like to look at, at CEC to make it run more effectively and that we haven't had a chance to do yet. >> So, President Sugimoto? >> And Dean Hodge knows that this has been some of my concerns and he has heard me say this in terms of CEC that the operations there are running appropriately and that we get firm information about the FTS is coming out of CEC particularly the noncredit which we've discussed in the past too. My concern certainly is the bread and butter of what we do which is teaching and learning and whether or not we are doing that at the capacity we should at CEC has been my concern. So if you're asking--my concern has been about the 150,000 dollar match. We've talked about how in fact we would be finding those dollars if in fact we get these extra dollars, I assume that would used to pay for some of these people is in fact we are mentioning that the individuals would--that you have would now have the opportunity to work more, I'm still a little bit in question about how you are going to be paying them. I'd assume you'd still be needing money to pay them and if it's not coming out of additional dollars, it still would be general fund dollars. >> Well-- >> Or--or if they don't need to be working then they wouldn't necessarily have those hours so we wouldn't be paying them. >> Well, part of how I do that is through grant money because we use district money and grant money to support our aids, and--I'll give you an example, many of our grants require that there is direct student services involved so I can, for instance, take a person who--who can work now in student services areas 'cause we have a full student services, operation, counseling, admissions and records, career center and so forth. I can put a person in one of those areas and they work specifically with students who are associated with that grant. So I'm able to now work them, sort of indirectly with that grant as long as they're providing services to--specifically to those set of students and so the way that I would do this largely would be through grant money and yes, it would require some additional funds out of those grant moneys. >> So my question is--when your saying your gonna be using grant money there would be no additional general fund dollars that would be used to meet this hundred and fifty thousand dollar [noise]? >> That's correct. No additional general fund moneys. >> Okay, so I will not see any request for additional dollars coming through-- >> I've heard it loud and clear. [ Laughter ] >> And if you see 'em, you won't--you won't approve 'em. [ Laughter ] >> Yeah. Yeah, I've heard it loud and clear but you've heard me also say, and we've been fortunate to get a lot of grants. I'm gonna go after the money that's available that we've been told we should go after to try to cover that entire cash match, and you know, that solves this completely, so that'll be my--that'll be my work. >> Student Trustee? >> Yeah. If you can sort of clarify something--on the--I guess on the district match portion--you--you said that the three advisers and the three assistants, they're already being paid as it is, right? >> Yes. >> The--the--I'm sort of--sort of as puzzled as to--wouldn't that be our--in the in--wouldn't that already be in the in kind portion since they're already being covered? [ Simultaneous Talking ] >> Well, it was--it was originally listed as in kind 'cause that's how we're using it, but all we did, we shift those into the cash column because, guess what? If they're in in kind, we still pay them, cash. So now what we've done is--instead of showing them in the in kind we were able to move them into the cash because we still have to pay them cash. >> Well-- >> So--okay. >> Well 'cause the thing is--under the district in kind, it says refers to items already funded in the college budget and that's what--that would be falling in the category of district in kind. >> Yeah. >> So if these are people that aren't even funded I'm just sort of curious as to what--I guess it doesn't really answer my question, why would there not be in an in kind if the criteria to be in kind is items already funded in the college budget. That--that's sort of what I'm-- >> Well, it kinda gets back to what Long Beach expects they--they know that when they report to the SBA, they have to show a cash match so it's their expectations that are driving the need to show this under the cash column, and when I revise that budget and I sent it to them, they said, "Okay, this is appropriate because what we've seen is that what was in kind, you've moved to cash and--and now that you've moved that out of in kind you're able to supplement the in kind at--at least a minimum of a hundred and fifty thousand," and we were able to do that because of the donations of the community and because of the indirect, so--and we increase the budget, so by that increase of three hundred to six hundred thousand it gave us more latitude to do the--do it the way we did it but we're really only going to the cash because we--we have to in order to be in this competitive grant process. Otherwise, I would prefer that it show in kind which is how we originally submitted it. >> So this point, I'd like to entertain a motion, and then I'll check to see if there are further questions or concerns. Trustee Thomson? >> Let me--for the purpose of moving this forward one way or the other, move that we authorize the submission of the letter indicating the 156,000 dollars or whatever the letter has to advise Long Beach State that we're--or Long Beach College that we're prepared to do but with the understanding, and this doesn't have to be in the letter but the understanding of our action that the 156,000 dollars consists of three advisers from currently employed staff, two advisers will not be hired until there is additional money available to do that and the need is demonstrated that the three college assistants will come from currently employed aids, and the graphic artists also will be current--the person who is currently employed as an aid thus meeting that we are not contributing anymore college general fund or other money to support this. This does not exclude CEC utilizing grant funds but it basically means they're using the existing resources, existing funds, not moneys, coming from the college. >> And I'll second that. >> You wanna repeat the motion? No, that's just a joke. [ Laughter ] >> I--I wanna be sure that this motion as stated which pretty much is--is generated out of page 2 would in fact meet the needs of the letter writers, if so, we can proceed? >> I think so. >> Okay. Further questions or discussion? Trustee Mann? >> I would like to hear President Sugimoto answer that question that Dean Hodge just asked, do you think this--that motion will meet the letter--needs of the letter writers because you spoke with the people at Long Beach City College, correct? >> Well, I did and certainly if I--if the letter says that Long Beach--Pasadena City Colleges committed to the hundred and fifty thousand, they will accept that, with the proviso certainly I will not put in the letter that these other pieces are there and that's all they want. They really want for that commitment plus the understanding of the in kind plus the reimbursement that we would acknowledge that that's how we would operate. >> That's--well, I'm just wondering if that needs to be in the motion or are you happy for that not to be in the motion? Those three parts of the budget request as I understand it. >> I think we're okay. >> Okay. >> Just--they--they basically wanted a commitment of the 150,000. The others, you know, the in kind is there. >> Okay, so that's essentially then what I'm inviting people to vote upon. Student Trustee? >> Should we just discuss where's--where those funds or what--where those funds come from? >> If that's your question, pose--sure, pose the question. >> So I guess I should pose it to Dr. Sugimoto or Dr. van Pelt. >> Well I--I guess were posing that to Rick 'cause it's certainly not coming out as general fund, so I guess the question for you Dean Hodge from Trustee Abadia is, where is the 150,000 coming from? >> Okay. I'll repeat the grant funds-- >> Once that you guys already have-- >> Yeah, we already have or--or that we may be able to get through promised money and through an opportunity to go out on for a different grant. >>Right, well--well 'cause you--either way you guys will have to pay it upfront. So I'm saying--so I'm saying the upfront fund will come from former-- [ Simultaneous Talking ] >> Yeah so--current--current funds. And--and we are reimbursed quarterly so, you know, we can sort of plan four months, right? And then we get reimbursed--no, three months, and then we get reimbursed, then we think about the next quarter and how we do that. >> Trustee Baum? >> Just by counting noses from the discussion, I think you--you may have the votes to go forward with this and--and I wanna take this opportunity, first off, to praise you for marshalling this process so far, and doing what we've asked as a Board to do community outreach and build coalitions within the community is evidenced by what I see here to--to do that. That being said, I actually will be voting no on the motion because I--I'd--if we are going to break from the--the core focus that--that we've been mandated from that I'm a part of, at the Board of Governors in Sacramento, of transfer, basic skills and career tech, I really need the--the organization to be in total alignment with that, and I'm not getting that feeling right now-- >> Okay. >> As a--as an initiative, but--I just wanted to make that statement before-- >> May I--may I comment to that? >> Yeah sure. >> Our mission statement says, at the end of it, "To improve the economic condition and quality of life of the diverse communities within the college service area," and PCC's mission statement says, "The committee ed. center's primary focus is to provide education, training and services that will help to continuously improve California's workforce." I believe that our mission statements clearly establish that this kind of operation is aligned with our mission. >> And I--I agree, I think that this is within the mission--as you articulated it. >> Right. >> And--but as we consider new opportunities going forward, that's what I'm saying I--I think we're gonna focus on those core things. Now if we're gonna break from that, if we're gonna go outside of that, I wanna make sure that all parties, the Academic Senate, the Classified Senate, the students, the administration, the executive team, the management team, are all in--all ready to go in--in that direction because we're gonna need that type of support as we go through all the budget discussions as well too, so. >> Yeah. >> That's--that's just where I am on it, but I--I think I'm really pleased that we've--we've gotten to this stage and I--and I wanna praise you for--for that work. >> Trustee Mann, and then President Sugimoto. >> I--I'll make this very quickly in response to what Trustee Baum just said, I actually think our mission statement now does include exactly what Dean Hodge described. My concern is that we have been asked by the chancellor and the state to reexamine our mission. However, I don't think we should penalize--we have--we have this going now, and the whole college does need to go through this process of--of refocusing our mission. This to me seems to be consistent with current mission but maybe not with the future mission which we don't have, so for that reason, I will vote for this although I think in six months I might not 'cause we may have refocused our mission, if that's clear? >> Thank you, Dr. Bradbury-Huang. And this is the only thing I start to think about about the reimbursements because it's on a quarterly basis so that means that we'll be expending dollars before we will then be reimbursed for them. >> Correct. >> So, my question for you is the cash flow issue question. >> Okay. >> So you'll be spending other people's money, if I may say that, the gra--other grant money, and then being reimbursed for that later? >> Correct, by a quarter. Now I should add that Long Beach expressed to me that if we get into--let's say midyear, and we look at how much we've spent and we decide, "We don't wanna spend the full 600,000." They say we have the ability to do that, and the way that works is they expect to see expenditures equally in each of the columns, the SBA portion, the cash match portion and the in kind portion, so they get spent equally kind of by quarter so they said if we get to the last quarter and we say, "We really don't have the funds to do our cash match portion," they say that we don't have to, we can decide not to and then, you know, then we haven't spent the full 600,000 and we haven't committed dollars that we feel we don't wanna spend. So on the back end of this, we at least have that ability to say, "Well, we've expended the amount of money we intended to and now, you know, maybe we didn't get the grants we hope we would get or that are promised so we're gonna, you know, we're gonna stop our services at this amount," and we do have the ability to do that. >> Right, I guess my question too has to do with, if you're spending other grant moneys and being reimbursed for those-- >> Yes. >> 'Cause your not spending general fund dollars and being reimbursed for those. >> Yes. >> So are the other grants gonna be happy with that? >> Well, it's again on how we use it. See, for instance, I'm currently funding our career center counselors through grant money because they're doing direct student services so I can use those people to work with this operation and it is appropriate, and I'm using grant money. So it's not like I have to go and make a change to what I'm doing, we're already doing it. And it is appropriate because it's Direct Student Services. >> So I wanna refocus the conversation on the Board, I'm--I'm gonna actually ask when it comes to voting that you raise your hands so that its clear what--what we have, so let me ask, are you ready to vote, or are there--is there any other remaining things? Okay! Let me ask Student Advisory vote first. >> I would like to abstain since because I--I feel as I--I would have to look further into it--into the details. >> Okay, very good. >> And those of you in favor please raise your hand. 1, 2, 3, 4, therefore the motion carries. >> You have to take the rest of the vote. >> Excuse me. The no's? One. The chair votes only to decide things so that's our vote. >> Well actually you--we have to have a recorded vote, I believe. >> I'm sorry. The Chair has to vote on everything as a member of this Board. That's in our bylaws. >> Okay. I'm a no. [ Laughter ] [ Inaudible Discussions ] >> Congratulations! >> Okay, thank you Board. >> We're looking forward to an amazing resource for our community being developed. [ Inaudible Discussions ] >> Yeah, let me point out in terms of process technically that was a consent item, not the best way to deal with that kind of level of detail. That may go on record as the first president who spent an hour and a half on consent items, not something that I want to continue, so Item P. >> Have--have we voted on all the other consent items? >> Yeah we did. >>Yeah. >> I believe so. >> Great! >> Except for the--the contract with the academic search. [ Simultaneous Talking ] >> Alright. >> Okay, so Item P, here we're required to receive and set the public hearing regarding initial bargaining unit proposal from the PCC Instructional Support Services Unit, ISSU I-S-S-U to the Pasadena Area Community College District, we will have discussion with possible action but essentially at the core of this is that that date will be January the 6th, I'll entertain a motion. >> Set the hearing on January 6th for the proposal. >> Second. [ Inaudible Remarks ] >> All in favor? >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Any no's? Any abstentions? Item Q, this is about the accreditation update let me turn this-- >> I move we defer this until the next meeting because it's just an update? There's no action required. >> I don't know. Let me turn this over to President Sugimoto. >> Be happy to do that. We--since you have a Board Retreat Study Session, probably want to look at this at the 20th. >> Yeah. >> At the earliest. >> Okay. >> Yes, I mean at the next regular board meeting, not the retreat. Yes? >> Item R? >> We'll just announce for the purposes of this discussion, it's an Annual Financial Report and Audit, and Mr. Thomson, Mr. Martin and I met as the Audit Committee with our auditors, they presented the preliminary audit document, we reviewed it in detail and that we will have a full review of it with the entire Board and the auditors present at a subsequent Board meeting. There are a number of issues that we will look forward to exploring in more detail with the full Board in public, as well. >> So in fact, all we're doing here is receiving the--the audit, we will come back to it at another time. >> I move we receive the audit. >> Second. >> And we--that will allow us to--to file the audit with the state which is required by December 31st, so. >> Very good. Now-- >> So we need to vote. >> Oh, let's vote. All those in favor? >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Student Trustee? >> Aye. >> All against? Abstentions? Item S, Presidential Search, Dr. Hales will come to the podium. [ Laughter ] [ Inaudible Remarks ] >> Went out and took some [inaudible]. [ Laughter ] >> I've been learning a lot this evening, thank you. >> And our--our task here is--I'm hoping to formalize the screening committee so in your folders you will have the most updated version, I believe Trustee Baum made an addition to that. >> And it's a little confusing 'cause it also remains nominees from trustees no longer serving on the screening committee. >> So it has not been updated or--we don't--? >> It--it has. I--I think what--what Trustee Baum is referring to is that in the case of Area 7, for example, there are two people who are listed there and obviously only one is going to serve. One is trustee--former Trustee Wells-Miller's nominee and the other is Dr. Fellow's nominee. >> And what is our protocol here? >> Our protocol is to remove Mrs. Wells-Miller's nominee because we voted that we would make the appointment tonight after the new trustees were seated and so you cannot make a recommendation for appointment if you are not on the Board. >> Fair enough so--with all thanks to Mimi Hennessy, she's being stricken by virtue of protocol reasons and the replacement--I don't have the name of the replacement. >> Its Dr. Richard Garcia. >> Dr. Richard Garcia. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> Okay, and Trustee Brown, do I have a name there? >> Gerda Govine. >> Oh Mr. Thomson? >> And then I would-- >> Okay. >> --recommend that we give them an opportunity to share the--a little bit of background on the--the individuals they intend to nominate since--then we would as a Board vote to appoint the Screening Committee. We should know who we're appointing. >> That's true. It also raises the question of whether everybody needs to introduce their--their representatives so that we can hold that in abeyance for now. >> I--I would say that since the rest of us send around written information on our--on our nominees, maybe we don't need to introduce them. Although our new members haven't heard it, you're right. >> Right. Trustee Fellow, go ahead. Please introduce-- >> Dr. Richard Garcia is a resident of Arcadia, also owns a business in Arcadia whereas offices he is a consultant and also consultant to--to various businesses and also a--a professor at the University of--Southern California in the Business School as an adjunct and very capable person, it's very much in tuned to selecting presidents of community colleges and universities. He's been on a number of boards that have done that. >> Very good. Trustee Brown? >> Well, I'm sorry, I did not bring her resume but Gerda Govine is a resident of Pasadena for over 30 years, and she is a consultant, she works for herself and I can e-mail you her resume, I'm sorry I didn't know I had to bring it. >> No that's--that's okay we--we trust your good choice. >> Yes. >> Well, I--I know her very well [Inaudible] as well. >> Yes, I do. I--I fully support this. >> I'd be fully supportive of--of her nomination. >> Thank you. >> Very good. Now, the question to you out of courtesy, would you like to hear, very briefly, from the rest of us so that we understand the composition of the--of the Search Committee. >> Sure. [ Laughter ] [ Inaudible Remarks ] >> Let's start with District 1? >> District 1? >> Just for the benefit of the new trustees, Dr. Katharine Harrington is a resident of Altadena. She's a former member of the library board up there. Her profession is she's the Dean of Admission in Financial Aid at the University of Southern California in the--in the--situation where she might not be able to complete her service, I've appointed an alternate, Julia McCallin, she's the Associate Vice President for Human Resources for the California Institute of Technology, Caltech. >> Very good, thank you. Area 2? >> Bobby Moon is the President of the Foundation-- >> And was with us earlier this evening. >> Who was with us earlier, she's on, I think, one of the advisory committees, she's a former school board member, she spent her entire life in Pasadena, is a small businesswoman, I think very well-known and very respected, but the main reason I'm recommending her is I think we do need a connection to the foundation and she's president and she also lives in my district. >> Very good! Area 4? >> My nominee is Laurence Pretty [phonetic], he is a--a lawyer, which is speak--of course speak very highly of him. [ Laughter ] >> He's still pretty. [ Laughter ] >> And a person that I've known for a long, long time and have great respect for. He is--lives in the Oak Knoll area of Pasadena, he served previously on Utility Advisory Commission for--for the City of Pasadena, he's been a member of the Linda Vista Neighborhood Association, and been a large part of this in addition to his legal career which has been primarily a litigation and currently in--in the litigation-related activities associated with that but he is in my view an excellent individual, he also happens to be British by ancestry, and he speaks with that marvelous British accent a little bit which always--sets nice tone. >> We won't hold that against him. [ Laughter ] >> I'm sure you will not. >> Dean Irish, you know, its--this British accents, I don't know. >> Area 5, my representative will be Annie Yu Sung [phonetic] Annie is also a lawyer by training though she--she works mostly with the--the indigent community. If you ask Annie how she would describe herself, she would say she's a mom, and she's a mom to do with very gifted children and hence her involvement with PCC, her son is connected to--to the Math Program here and--and loves that Annie herself was a PCC--or I guess, is a PCC alumna, she lives in--in South Pass. My alternate will be Dr. Melinda Hsia, it was rumored that he was married to Ted Hsia in South Pass. She thought this was very funny and thinks we all have great sense of humor. Its--its Hsia, Chinese Hsia, H-S-I-A, Shaw S-H-A-W so--I know Melinda through the Chinese-American Association, and I'm just very grateful that both of them are willing to serve. [ Inaudible Remarks ] >> We've covered 6, we've covered 7, very good. So yeah, campus members, if--if you would please, Academic Senate for example, Ed Martinez, I think we know him. >> Yes. >> He was here. >> Edward is here this evening, he's the Articulation Officer, Vice President of the Senate Counsel at PCC, and Jane Hallinger is a former President of the Senate and is very active in fact state wide and we're very pleased we could have both of these faculty participate. >> Wonderful! Classified Senate: Cynthia George and Cynthia Smith. >> That is correct. Cynthia George works in the Career and Tech Education and Cynthia Smith works with the Assistant of the VP Administration. >> Fabulous! Management Association: Alexander Kritselis was also with us earlier. >> Yes, he's a fabulous manager, Dean of the department of Visual Arts and Media Services and a very effective manager with the instructional team and so I think you'll be--really pleased with his work. I need to say this but Cynthia George reports to me and because I wanted her to have an opportunity to serve I declined to--to serve on the committee so--and I've done it 3 or 4 times so it's time for somebody else. [ Laughter ] >> Yeah, yeah. Great, great! Dr. Stu Wilcox is with us here this evening, Brian Abadia is with us also this evening, thank you for your willingness to serve as is Allen Tsay. So that's it! So the total Screening Committee comes to the number 15, and so I entertain a motion to accept this? >> To appoint it. >> To appoint these folks. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Discussion, anything? And Student Trustee? >> Aye. >> Thank you, and all those in favor? >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Against? Okay. Now, we'll turn to the contract with-- >> Just one point, we should have that--we have had discussion about the chairmanship of this committee and at some point we should discuss the process or the selection of a chair of the screening committee too and so, I don't know if we wanna do that now or if the other Board members want to but I would just wanna put that on the table. >> It is of course up to the Board. My recommendation would be to leave that to the retreat because my assumption is, and I hope this is true, Dr. Hales can join us at that retreat and you will be involved in issues of immersion, interviews I think you called them and so on and so forth, however before I turn to you, I feel like we should talk about your contract, otherwise we're having you work for free so-- [ Laughter ] >> Would that make sense to first turn to the contract? >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely! >> Right. >> Now, one of the--one of the news--well, let me not even get into that--our colleague here, Vice President Thomson is the one we--we turn to in terms of contracts, what would you recommend before we entertain a motion? >> Well and I--I have a couple of questions. I think there are two thing--two issues that need to be clarified on--one is on the services, Item number 3: Consultation as Requested Needed Through the Duration of the Search to its Scheduled Conclusion by Approximately the Spring of 2010, this is not a legal question but just a pragmatic question, is that realistic? >> Some of us are lost, would you just remind us. >> It's a-- >> What is that? What's the item? >> Well it's--it's under S, and its agreement for consulting the services A3, I'm just wondering if the spring of 2010 is realistic. I suppose that could include from March 21st to June 21st so it might be, but that just made me a little bit nervous. >> From the point of view of our firm the standard search will take between 5 and 6 months. But of course some of this will depend upon whatever statutory limitations the body may be working under I'm not fully familiar with all perhaps especial kinds of statutory limitations under which you all may work but a 5 or 6-month term for a search is--is a very reasonable one. I was assuming based upon a very tentative schedule I'd sketch out for myself that perhaps an appointment might be accomplished by sometime in May or June here and that still is spring at least three-- [ Simultaneous Talking ] [ Laughter ] >> Yes. >> So I think that is indeed reasonable. If you're hoping to have this done by March I'd say no but I think by-- >> My only concern was I would take a B preferable to say by the end--by the end of June of 2010 something like this is. >> That's perfectly fine from our point of view. >> That's more realistic and a force will pick us, what does the spring of 2010 mean, it's a, you know, 3-month period time so anyway, the legal question I had and I know that there are gonna be some questions as to the proposal or to the definition of services and whether that's adequately identified et cetera but something that I've never seen in a contract before is item C6 or excuse me, C5. This agreement shall be governed by the laws of the District of Columbia and the State of California. I've never seen it with 2 state laws governing because what happens if they're in conflict? Usually it's just one state and the District of Columbia is not even a state of course, but it typically would be the State of California or the state of the other party. I think we should ask that that be changed to just say it would be governed by the laws of the State of California period. Because if you get--you can get into a conflict of laws and a whole lot of things there and I think that's just ambiguous and unnecessary. Would you have any problem with that? >> My colleagues in Washington D.C. have not talked with me about any particular specifications such as this one. I'm not sure how the original contract which we submitted to you how it read, did it read with only one of these regions mentioned and did your request ask for a second one to be added? I don't know how it came to this point. >> I don't recall the original one but. >> Dean Engeldinger maybe you could answer that question or at least shed some light on that. >> Yes the original contract is presented by the firm--the District of Columbia. >> Because that is where we are legally located. >> Sure. >> Yeah that's not surprising. >> Right. >> Well my basic point is I'll be one of the other but not both because I figured this is inviting--and after we're gonna have problems with the contract, I'm not speculating or assuming that, I just think that's being careful out of the--one or the other and it's. >> We certainly have never had difficulty in the past working and using the regulations of the districts since that is where we function as a corporation. >> It can be either one, I'm just more familiar with California obviously. Those were the only or really going legal issue on this and I'm assuming this it gonna be put into a more formalized contract before it actually be presented for a signature. >> The signature would not be mine. It would be our President and our Director of Client Relations. >> Which raises the question by the way who signs for us? >> It normally is to our contracts area and I would assume our VP, well I could sign off and it said be authorized since you just certified the signatures but we would certainly have it go through our contracts area with Sherry and then the VP of Admin Services. >> In one sense, we're very fortuned that Mr. Thomson's here who has some legal expertise but also I don't wanna put Mr. Thomson in the role of being the general counsel for the institution in reviewing these so I expect-- >> Unless you increase my salary but-- >> Exactly. So I--my expectation to resolve that potential technicality would be that there still will be review by our council and Contract's Office so that if there is any possible potential conflict as I expect Academic Search would reviewing its side of the deal. >> Absolutely. >> I had some questions about some core responsibilities-- >> Sure. >> --too because the one thing I wanna make sure is that we're clear on the things the things that you are going to need, the college staff and resources to do and the things that we as an institution are counting on you in Academic Search to perform. So for example, one of them that I didn't see articulated here was the development of a position announcement. The design of an ad or the design of the strategy, you understand the placement of ads and the payment for the advertising cost are part of the cost that we will bear. >> Yes. >> But under our direction, my expectation is that Academic Search will be drafting the position--the Search Announcement drafting the contents of any announcements about the position. >> Absolutely. As I--I think I mentioned a week ago, one of my main responsibilities is conducting what we call the pre-search meeting on campus. I wish I would come to campus for a 2 or 3-day period and interview and spend time with a large collection of both individuals and campus committees and groups. A group selected by the campus and the Search Committee of people they felt are most representative of the folks that I should talk to. As result of my 2 or 3 days on campus, I will draft a profile a longer profile, that's the name we give to this particular document, a profile, a draft maybe anywhere between 6 and 10 pages. And I set as example of such a profile to Lyle Engeldinger by e-mail last week, the profile we used at Occidental College last year. The first draft which I produce is the result of my visit to campus, trying to express in the best way I can based upon all the people with whom I talked the background and history of the institution, its current program and at the challenges and opportunities it faces, the challenges and opportunities that will face a new Superintendent President coming into this role and then the personal characteristics which the community here feels lots-- >> See you'll be drafting that? >> I draft that but, that draft then--I may get things right, I may get some things a little wrong based upon the people with whom I've talked. That draft goes to the Search Committee. And they then read it, offer all their best critical comments back to me and I produce from their comments a second draft. And then maybe a third until I get it right or until together we get it right. And that becomes the profile. >> And then we produce that--and then out of that, I expect there'll be an ad. >> We extract out a data of maybe an advertisement roughly usually of the size of a quarter page in the Chronicle of Higher Education which can also be placed in many other places as an advertisement with a link, an electronic link to this whole profile. >> For the benefit of our Director of Public Relations who is in the audience [inaudible]. So the--so the firm will be developing the position description and announcement and then also providing the content for an ad after--within consultation with all of us. >> Absolutely, absolutely. The governing body here is the Search Committee in that regard. >> Correct. >> And I am essentially feeding them an evolving document coming out of all the work that I've done with them and together, we produce then a document. >> Because my experience when we did this 2 years ago was that we ended up doing the kitchen sink type of position description and had a telephone book for a description and that's because we did it ourselves by committee here sitting around the table at the Board and did not have the benefit of a search consultant who had expertise in that area. That was my personal feeling on that. >> There is currently an invitation to application on the PCC website which aces brevity, it's basically send in your application so, you know, we're quick learners. >> Well and I should say in that regard the help that I would need from perhaps the search secretary on campus as an individual is helping me make the appointments to meet over a period of 3 days with a wide number of individuals who--I can't do that by myself, I need one person on campus to help. >> That speaking of which too, I visited some of your firms' client's websites of announcing searches and I wanna make sure that we're ready to set up a page that has all the elements that would go into an effective webpage that could be referred to by possible candidates. >> A website on your own website. >> Right. >> That's right, and that it would be your own IT people who would have to of course design that to fit into your own website. >> And so I wanna make sure we're--we understand that, that's something we will be doing with the guidance of the consultant. >> Then we have our own website and your own--your own advertisement and profile will be posted on our website along--along all the others of the profiles of the jobs we're doing. >> Seems like we're already moving in that direction. >> I'm surprised to actually see that up there too, to see like to whom is--who's the recipient of those types on inquiries because theoretically, inquiries of potential candidates now will--once you're under contract, should be directed to. >> All the inquiries would come to me. >> So, where is the website saying people should be in touch? >> Dr. Bradbury-Huang? >> In answering Geoff's question Dean Engeldinger has an answer to that because right now, we attempted to get the word out at the CCLC Conference. So, we did a quick flier to say we're announcing this position and we would--nominations or interests and those interests or nominations are going directly right now to Dr. Engeldinger and he is creating a list of people who are interested which we would then provide information to them and link them to Academic Search's information. >> So, I guess, again my expectation as an individual. Once we have a firm under contract, all of that should be directed to the front. >> And then the course of the period of time over which I am drafting and with the committee are putting together that profile our staff in the Washington D.C. is then preparing the website so that in over a period of two or three weeks once that profile is done then our website is close then to being done too. So, everything is finished and ready to go roughly simultaneously. >> If I recall your word last week was partnership and flexibility-- >> Absolutely. >> And I certainly don't want to give the message that we don't fully appreciate that this is already on the website but that the point is that we will align in partnership which where we're going 'cause we want to move quickly for the various conferences. Did I see a hand up? >> I was just trying to say what Dr. Sugimoto said. We wanted to--I wanted to be able to take fliers when we--at the triple--at the CCCL and so we're just put something on the website once--but we--at that time we didn't have a contract. We can certainly take it down. We can redirect it. But lots of people were asking me and were very happy to get--just a little piece of paper that's all Geoff. >> My own view is this is both simple and part--simple and attractive so it's certainly doesn't hurt us. >> Doesn't hurt, right. >> Trustee Brown? >> Yes, I had a question regarding the payment plan. >> The which? >> The payment plan. >> Payment plan, yes ma'am. >> As far as I understand that the search will be 'til approximately June, right? >> That's--yes. >> So, my concern is why is the last payment in March? Is this customary or-- >> Our standard request is that we ask for three payments, three months in a row early in the search process. We are flexible in that regard, however, and if an institution would like to spread that without--with several months, you know, a month in between each of the payments that's fine too. But we--our normal request is that we have a schedule for the payment in the first three but we're flexible enough to spread it out a bit further if that's the choice of the institution. >> Thanks. >> Whether a comment on the contract on A12. The services described and the proposal services attached and incorporate in this agreement and what you're referring to here is October 22nd, 2009 document that-- >> Yes. >> We've looked at before but as you read through that, I'm not quite sure what you would identify as services that are described in this document that we're incorporating into the contract. I think it'd be better to have some clarity as to what we're proposing to incorporate into this again in the event that there was a need to worry about enforcing it. >> I believe there is in that proposal a--almost a month by month-- >> Yes. >> --list of the activity is that we undertake in terms of-- >> You know where it is? >> In terms of the pre-search and the recruiting period and then the narrowing down period, the interviews, and the final appointment. If I remember correctly the structure that it says month 1, month 3, month 4, month 5. >> It's on page 8 of your proposal. [ Simultaneous Talking ] >> What's on page 8? >> That's a--it's a fairly detailed description of our standards. >> Right, I'm just saying I think we got to be--it ought to be more specific as to what you're identifying as the services that you'll be providing and I actually for that matter your--what is described on page 6 and 7 also are services that you're providing for us so I--my only point is I think it ought to be more specific and, you know, and more clear as to West being incorporated. >> So perhaps a more--a reference in this contract itself to specific pages. >> Right. >> Exactly, that'd be fine. [ Simultaneous Talking ] >> Not adding too the mess early but just except direct reference students. But in fact, this contract is meant to say that all those services in that proposal are being not just a portion of them but all of them are being offered in this regard, but a direct reference to the pages and the items may be helpful. >> That, that'd be helpful I think just for clarity. >> Aren't we pedantic what are called activities in here are the services from the contract? >> Absolutely. >> Those two words just need to be linked. >> Yes, sure, I agree. >> Yes I--I did notice that in the contract, the references to the search committee but the committee is not a search committee, it's a screening committee. And so we need to change that word to just screening committee throughout the contract. >> How--may I ask how you see perhaps one of those differing from the other in that regard? >> Well, actually we have a long discussion about this, we see a screening committee as a committee that reviews the candidates and does an initial interview and then submits names to the board as opposed to a search committee who selects final candidates. We do not see that screening committee as making final candidates but as giving the board maybe 5 or 6 candidates and the board makes the final decision on that. >> Alright, then maybe we should in fact modify our language to reflect your own process which is then a bit more 2 layered than perhaps we normally used to although it is certainly the case that in many of our searches, the search committee makes a recommendation to a board of trustees. And so they sometimes they're identified in the contract, sometimes not. But I think perhaps your procedure is more like our standard procedures just that we--we referred to the search committee as in fact the one which fulfills the role of doing just as you described. A recommendation of some number, maybe not 6, maybe 3 to a board of trustees, so I think, that's why I asked the question. I believe the functions of your screening committee are very much like the functions of what we normally would refer to as a search committee. We're happy to have the names changed as long as I can count on the fact that this committee will be one to which I can submit profile drafts and gets comments back. And the committee, which will affect--read all the applications and then make those screening decisions down to a certain level. >> Right, right. >> Well, well--and also this is why I'm hoping you can attend the retreat 'cause what also needs to be said is there is an ad hoc search committee of the board which I think sounds a little bit closer to your idea of the 3 person per group. But the screening committee is what we--we just appointed a few minutes ago. >> Yes. >> So--and we think of then obviously the board is the one who oversees the entire thing. But that to me would be the-- >> I think the next step then and perhaps this can be taken up at and discussed at the retreat is to have a much more detailed timeline which shows the roles by--of which are played by each of these various groups from here to there, and the point you have in the proposal of course is a bit more general but I think a more detailed timeline showing when the screening committee will be doing its responsibilities and when perhaps some of those responsibility shift from that committee to the ad hoc committee itself. And that can be handled in a--just a more detailed timeline. And we'd be doing that in any case. And here we just would then be meeting the concern that's been expressed. >> That would be good to reach alignment on that because the screening committee is not gonna recommend to the ad hoc committee. The screening committee is gonna recommend to the board and the board is the search committee. The ad hoc committee of trustees will just be of resource to the screening committee. >> Yes. >> Liaison for that. >> And to you. >> Right. I have 2 quick questions, just-- >> Sure. >> The initial proposal had a 65,000 dollar price tag and we always--and we--was nice always to see when the price goes down, what was the background behind that? >> The question was put to me whether or not perhaps the firm would be willing to entertain a 5 percent decrease from those three. >> It was very nice about that actually. >> Okay. And from the price that we had normally quoted. >> Right, Dean Engeldinger. >> And I--I would like to be absolutely clear in this regard so I represent our firm clearly. Normally, we proposed as a fee for presidential searches a fee of 70,000. But we did not in this case because of our interest and understanding budget situations here. So our original proposal for it was not 70 but 65. Never the less the request was made [inaudible] in light of budget challenges everywhere that might we reduce it in addition--an additional 5 percent. And we agreed to that, and that takes it down to 61,750. >> Well, we appreciate that gesture of goodwill on behalf of the search. >> Happy, happy to do it. >> [Inaudible] as a token of our fruitful relationship to come. One question I have about for you specifically, yes too. You--if--if self confessed that you are new to the world of community colleges and community college search, you personally. >> Only. Personally yes although through my wife, great involvement. >> Right, yes. Right, I am saying through you personally as a professional search consultant. >> Yes, right. >> What will you do in the next 6 weeks to immerse yourself in the world, the needs, not just kind of within our college culture, what's unique about Pasadena City College, and I was impressed with your knowledge of the college of--and the--but actually the landscape of the challenges and leadership requirements to be successful as a California Community College president. >> I think there are 3 things immediately that I know I'm going to be doing. One of course is the pre search, and the pre search here on campus we'll be talking not just to individuals and groups on campus but local people in the Pasadena and San Gabriel Valley community. But also in that connection, reading a lot of your bylaws and state regulation, so I understand the context in which you must operate too. That will--that's actually critical because there are far more statutes I think that you all have to pay attention too than most institutions. And so I want to be sure I'm familiar with those limitations on their sense. So that's one, just the pre search and all the study I do individually. Secondly, I have 2 colleagues at Academic Search who has spent a good deal of their time of working with community colleges. One, a man named John Hicks who has done 3 of the searches at the Foothill-De Anza just finished the superintendent that district search. I was on the phone with him today talking a bit about some of the experience he had. Another colleague John Pickleman [phonetic] also has been involved in community college searches. I will spend considerable time with them in our staff retreat in Washington DC in January. Picking their brains in every way I can about the processes they've undergone in community college searches. So that's second, I have two colleagues with huge background experience that I can learn from. Thirdly, and this is a suggestion, this has been [inaudible] to me tonight as well as by my colleagues that Jack Scott, the commissioner in Sacramento only an hour--hour and a half drive from me will be a great resource and I would plan to spend a half a day with him to pick his brain about the kinds of considerations that I should be giving to the search from the start. So there are three ways by which I'm gonna toss myself and into this process and learn all that I can about it. That's what makes it interesting. >> Why--and that's what I'm counting on you going--kinda going to school on community college governance issues. >> Absolutely right. >> Because it is a multilayered process and a political entity within the state. >> And those are 3 areas, ways by which I'm gonna do that. Thanks, Geoffrey. >> This is a detail but we might look at having Dr. Hales [phonetic] invited to the conference that will be in Sacramento January 21st, 22nd somewhere in Apple Park. You know, just as a way of swimming in the waters of the culture of the community college [inaudible]. [ Simultaneous Talking ] >> Well. >> And all the sharks. >> And 'cause there--there I think are some significant cultural things. Okay. >> I'm prepared to make a motion if you are ready to receive one. >> Okay. >> With respect to consent item 89-B, we held the academic search contract, the amount of it, I would move approval of that. Not that the contract itself. We recognize that's got to go through some modifications, but the amount of money at all. >> And I second that with the understanding that subject to our traditional contract review process in academic searches contract so that gets through all whatever legal loopholes need to be covered. >> An attendant to the issue's raised by you early at those specific issues. Very good. >> So the direction would be for us to bring this back as a ratification to you after we negotiate the contract and get that signed in a featured future day. >> I would think you'd bring the contract back for approval as the details. All we're approving right now is the amount of money so they can start working. >> Well. >> No. >> My understanding is that we--we would--we need to approve the contract so that they can get started, so it could be executed subject whatever that of process we have to ensure whatever legal issues may come up. Because until we have them under contract, they wouldn't be able to begin work theoretically. Well, and I think we're--we're--have a difference of semantics or I think, when I say contract I mean the actual legal document. When you say contract or other use of the word contract, I think talk about the general concept that we're making a contract with you for this amount of money and you're gonna provide these services. But when I use the word contract, I'm referring to the actual document, and that's what I'm saying. We don't have that in the form this evening to be approved. We can--I think it'd be safer for ourselves to have that document brought back to us for approval before people starts signing it. That's what I--that'd be my view of it. >> The question is what is necessary for Dr. Hales to start working as of the gabble fall and connected to that, I was thrown actually by President Sugimoto's use of the word negotiate. I was assuming this contract has been negotiated and there're just a few clarifications. >> Clarifications. Right. >> Okay, so in making the motion and assenting to the motion what we're saying is essentially we're ready to go and then there'll be some clarification. >> Can we make the motion a little more clear where it says, we're directing the administration, the contract with Academic Search to conduct the search based upon the agreement presented subjective for the review and then the actual document itself could be brought back for--but we're allowing them to sign it without--and we'd bring it back to--for ratification in our next meeting. >> That's basically how you do it. >> The word ratification bothers me because typically that does not allow much freedom to change wording on that and--and so I--I don't--I think we're talking about the very same thing here, whether we ratify it or whether we bring it back. The actual final legal document ought to be brought back for approval. What we're doing this evening is in concept approving the contract terms that we've looked at and talked about and the amount of money and that will then direct and I believe authorize Academic Search to get going. Would that be satisfactory to you? >> That's fine. I certainly would start with a good faith effort that we are going to approve this contract. For example, I think I may try to come back to campus tomorrow morning and start--and talking with some people. >> That'd be wonderful. >> And then I'm obviously incurring some expenses on this trip to do so. >> Yeah, and I think clearly we're agreeing to be responsible for that and I may be overly lawyer like you're on this but it seems to me that we're approving in concept the contract for 61,750 dollars, I believe that's the number I--and the general terms are sent forth in the document that we have before us this evening and right in this--on the agenda by recognizing that it has to go back for some words missing to be put in a form by which your company is gonna sign it and we're gonna sign, that's all we're saying. >> My only concern is what you said that we'll come back to us for final approval on it can't--it can't that--that we can actually make changes at the next meeting which would then set us back even farther. >> No. >> And that's what--is not--I don't think [inaudible]. >> Well, if it look--you feel satisfactory to the academic search, I don't see why we should worry about that. We're not gonna be starting over but if we look at something and it's not worth the way that we think it ought to be, I think we want ourselves to have a freedom and to modify that and then to approve the contract. If we're only gonna be ratifying it, I think technically speaking, legally speaking we're not gonna be allowed to do those types of things and so I think we ought to give ourselves flexibility to really review the contract, have very dull and take a look at it and give us, sir, okay on it as well, which we have not had to the present time. We're not gonna be starting over adding to a call in new terms with things like that but-- >> Yes, I was just going to say, I think what Mr. Thomson just said, I think if we have Mary or a counsel look at it, and if there's any kind of legal issues that--that--that she wants to work out, that would be fine but that we just go ahead with this. We've done this with other things. We've got a general concept. We've left the final language to be developed by--by--you know, Mary and that, so forth. So I would be comfortable with that. But I know--I think we should just all make a pledge to ourselves that when it comes back, we will not start in and then [inaudible] to depth. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> 'Cause we can spend hours doing this, I mean I could rewrite every one of these sentences to make them just a little better. [Laughter] But I don't--I have no desire to do that. >> And for audiocast purposes, this is well beyond the general concept. This is I would say 99.9 percent done. There are, however, important issues that have been raised and those are the ones that we would expect to sign off on maintaining the prerogative that, you know, if we don't like it, we don't like it. Good okay, anything else? Let's vote, Student Trustee? >> Aye. >> All in favor? >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Any nos? Any abstentions? Very good. Thank you Dr. Hale I bet, you know. >> Thank you. >> Welcome aboard. >> Thank you very much. >> Looking forward to working with all of you, thanks so much. >> Dr. Hale, now that you're aboard, you could even come and have one of these gingerbread cookies if you want, if you would like. >> Had a great big piece of cake beforehand, [inaudible] just fine, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Very good. The next item is really the retreat. >> The ad hoc committee? >> I wanna deal with those all together. So these are retreat, yeah. So, I said I picked up the issue of ad hoc committees in under the issue of retreat. And what's important is for what I'm going to say. I'd ask you all to look at the document as available also to the public. It starts, Dear, PCC colleagues. I don't believe you all have it so I am going to give it to you. [ Inaudible Remarks ] >> This is the public one, I think it's good that we all. >> Oh, we all have the same thing. >> Be on the same page. [ Noise ] [ Inaudible Remark ] >> I did, yeah people should know what a good deal they're getting. I'm gonna quote Doc--Anthony Portantino. He said it's staggering what the challenges are and I'm not oblivious to those challenges as I stepped into this role. It is daunting and so for reasons of transparency, what I've done is created a document that shares with you my thoughts about what we want to accomplish at the retreat and my thoughts for what are our top 10. What our--I should be careful what are my top 10 concerns but I have a--I guess that many of us share these concerns. Thinking it would be late in the evening, not this late. I'm also sharing what I think are the process principles and the ad hoc subcommittees of the board. This has already become very clear just in the--in the last conversation. For example, one of the things that we need to do I think as a board is retain quality control over all contracts, that's daunting. And to my left, we have a man who I think will do a very fine job with that because in the end, the fiduciary responsibility resides with us. But we have had to date no process at all for that. Hence there is a new ad hoc subcommittee. The presidential search, given that's a very important item for us also requires a--an ad hoc subcommittee. Let me explain my thinking there. We have the present, the past, and potentially future presidents of the board in that subcommittee. We may decide that 3 people is perfectly adequate, we may decide at the importance of having an alternate. My thoughts leaned to expressing my interest in having new perspectives, particularly those who represent minority perspectives be a part of that in recognition of the election has just passed and the importance of the presidential search. However, what I want to do with all of these subcommittees is invite you to reflect on it, not at 11 o'clock in the evening but between now and the retreat. And I'm also going to invite input from pretty much as many as many of the campus decision makers and leaders as I can, including of course board colleagues. So to do that, I need another subcommittee and that subcommittee of course will be the executive officers, myself, Jeff and Bill. Beyond that, I'm expanding the foundation committee to think of it also in terms of advancement, advancement meaning--meaning basically revenue generating. I think it's time for a new alignment with the foundation. We clearly already have a connection to the foundation. We want to broaden that a little bit, radio and communications committee in deference to Trustee Fellow's knowledge of these issues to join Trustee Baum and Thomson. The radio obviously refers to KBCC but communications as an issue that I certainly hear an enormous thing about. So we could stop and say, "Wow, this is just way too much." Maybe. One of the process principles is distributed leadership. I think in times of challenge we either say we can rise to the challenge or we structure ourselves so that we can rise to the challenge. I think by inviting all hands on deck, we can rise very well to that challenge. And so the proposal here is to consider these subcommittees. I would like to formalize them at the retreat where there can be some alignment and a little bit more conversation and they would work independently and interdependently. In other words to take the example of what's just transpired in the conversation with Trustee Thomson, Trustee Thomson would take the lead in managing the process, determining with staff, what's needed for a process, for quality control on contracts, and basically often running with that--with his other colleagues. He would keep me in the loop as would all of these subcommittees be in the loop and announcements to campus would happen accordingly. In other words, an enormous amount of work can happen working in this way. It's not different so much as slightly tweaked in honor of the challenges that we must face. So that's the--that's the basic thing. Also given that the retreat is coming up so early, I've outlined what I think could be an adequate agenda setting for that and [inaudible] myself, the officers and President Sugimoto will sit down closer to the date and actually figure out given the input that I'm inviting, what does this mean for what we can accomplish realistically at the retreat. Is there anything else to say? I include my bio as a simple suggestion, reminder. Please, everybody, board colleagues, bring your bios to the retreat. One of--you know, as a process item, it's important that we understand that we are now a new board. Two whole new links in a relatively small number means a new board. We want to know you better, we want to know how to work with you, so please bring your bios as well. Let me stop there. Invite comments. Anything you wish to say or ask? [ Noise ] [ Inaudible Remarks ] >> What--what portion of the retreat would generally be a closed session? Like what percentage of the total time? I'm sorry. What percentage of the total time will generally be a closed session? >> You know, that's a tough one because we have literally to design it. Here's what I will tell you. I don't imagine it being different from any other retreats, so is that a good answer? In terms of our apportionment of the time. >> Okay what's the-- >> Traditionally. >> What's the general breakdown? >> Right. Traditionally there will be very limited--little closed session as part of this retreat. Closed session was only for talking about specific personnel or negotiations or real estate transactions. It is an open meeting. >> Okay. >> And so it could be part of it. >> Although my hope would be that it'd be very little business as usual. I know for example we have issue to take care of and so, well, we'll do that. But really, we have to accomplish a lot in this short period of time [inaudible] in fact. >> And I think I have mentioned that we'd like to take some time in closed session, however, to go over some very critical items that we need to discuss because of timeline issues on those at the 6, so-- >> Right, right. Yeah, yeah. >> I think then in designing the retreat just as a suggestion because I know--I assume that Brian has asked them because if he comes, he wants to know when he should come, how much time he should plan being there. And, you know, what we have often done is we've put the closed session items at the end so that we have all the open discussion, maybe have the closed session over dinner or something so that then Brian or anyone else who wants to come will know that they're, you know, they're welcome until we do have to go into closed session. So I would hope and putting it together or at the beginning but that's often tricky having it first. >> That's a good idea. Alright, so people are therefore blocked and we're not disturbing their day. >> Alright. >> Yeah, the thing we've often did to make it not business as usual is selecting a different venue like the room in the library or another room to--for a venue for the retreat. >> I would love us to enjoy some of the new facilities if there's daylight, you know, not the one next door. In other words, I don't want us to sit in a box but I think it would be wonderful to think about what works that's not too difficult, et cetera. Yeah. So the suggestion obviously is we're not gonna use the [inaudible] 'cause we're gonna--we're gonna save money. Anything else? So let me just say this by enclosing. Going forward, the wonderful Mrs. Thompson is gonna schedule what essentially could be a 3-ring circus, right? Because the subcommittee, so the executives officers will receive the input. We will set up meeting where at least one will be present. And my preference is that these meetings be relatively small, no bigger than 7 or 8 people so that we can really have a conversation. So the invitation is to the community as directed by you and perhaps suggested and/or invited that we have a conversation about these things so that at the retreat we're bringing in information that will help us make decisions. Otherwise, philosophically in accepting the nomination, I am trusting and relying upon the support of each and every member of the board. Thank you. [ Pause ] >> Well, that really created some silence. [ Laughter ] [ Inaudible Remark ] >> 11:30 at night. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> I'm just not done yet. >> President's report, Dr. Sugimoto. >> Well, in interest of time, I think perhaps we can delay the president's report for this meeting, if you don't mind. >> We'll make it at the holiday reception next Wednesday. >> Okay. [ Laughter ] >> Which is a perfect segue. Reports by shared governance representatives and members of the board-- [ Inaudible Remark ] >> --management association. >> I have no report but I do want the board to know that we have a very successful holiday reception this morning with about 300 guests showing. And we awarded the Risser Award for staff. I know the winner's first name but not her last. She's Jennifer-- >> Cooper. >> Cooper. >> Cooper and she works in the library. She, unfortunately, was unable to be with us. It wasn't announced at the reception. But at the time we presented the award, she was in surgery so she doesn't even know yet but she's the award winner. >> Wow. Is she doing okay? >> Yes. >> As far as I know she's doing well. >> Okay, with scheduled surgery. Okay, wonderful. Well, thank you. Thank you for that. Dr. Bickley. >> I'll defer my report till next time but I will pass around the nanoseconds. >> Mr. Lindemann? >> Yes, ma'am. I'd like to just welcome the new trustees, Trustee Brown and Trustee Fellow. I'd like to thank the management association for their holiday party this morning. And I would like to congratulate Jennifer Cooper, the Risser Award winner. >> Thank you, John. I can come back to you. Who is the next stop? >> Brian. >> [Inaudible] Allen. >> Allen. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> Shall we just come back to you, Allen? >> Okay, see you guys. >> I think I'm seated. Lots of reports but I'm just gonna say one thing 'cause the light is long--the night is long. Holiday Angels, if anybody would like to contribute. And I thank Trustee Thomson very much. He has just contributed and became I believe our second Holiday Angel trustee. So please talk to me afterwards or drop by the office of student affairs anytime this week or next week, or Monday next week rather. >> And who is the first Holiday trustee? >> I believe it's Trustee Baum, thank you very much. [ Laughter ] >> And that being said, thank you [inaudible]. >> Dr. Mann? >> Nothing to report. >> No thank you. >> Nothing further, thank you. >> I just wanna send out a little love to the women's volleyball team which went almost all the way. My wife and daughter were able to go to the championship game against Bakersfield. Sadly, we lost but they had a great season. And number two--and number two and--oh yeah, Bakersfield College there. Number two is just the announcement that I'm hoping in the spirit of communication and outreach that we'll put a release out announcing the appointment of this screening committee so that the community at large can see. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> Would you have a report at this stage? >> No. >> But you could think about it for next time. We tend to use it as an opportunity to report on activities in support of the board but outside of board meetings. So it could be a community meeting that you represent the board at or whatever, okay. >> Dr. Bradbury-Huang, I think you may wish to ask Trustee Abadia if he has a report? [ Inaudible Remark ] >> He's communicating telepathically. [ Laughter ] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> That's special communication. Future agenda i--no, future board meeting dates. Let's have a motion to set our next meeting as Wednesday, January the 6th, that's our board retreat and study session here on the PCC campus. >> At 3 o'clock? >> Yes, right. Convening at 3 o'clock and, you know, let the games commence. >> What time are we meeting? >> We don't know. >> Okay. >> We don't know but it will be on this campus. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And we will let you know, Brian. >> Okay. >> And that will be posted in the regular way. There'll be no surprises or anything. >> So moved 'cause we don't have the time or place. >> Can we do both together? And Wednesday, January the 2nd, which will be just a regular board meeting. >> The 20th, 20th. >> 20th. >> The 20th at 6. >> That one's already set. >> That one is set. [ Simultaneous Talking ] >> So we don't need to vote on the time before the retreat. >> It's just the retreat. Yeah. >> Okay, great. >> I have a second, so all in favor. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Any nos? Future agenda items. I'm assuming we picked up what the speaker at the podium was saying. That's our regular practice as I understand. Whoever comes to the podium if they have items that would go into the future agenda hopper. Anybody else? Yeah, alright, well we can talk certainly. >> I move we adjourn. >> Okay. [ Laughter ] >> I have an airplane to catch [inaudible]. >> Okay, we are adjourned. >> Could I ask before the new board--before anyone who was sworn in [inaudible]. Mrs. Thompson, don't you--do you need them to sign something? [ Inaudible Remark ] >> Yes, we do. >> Okay, so you want all of the new board members to go over there. >> New board members and reelected. >> Yeah, everyone who's new in the sense that they just came on. >> Are you gonna come here or do we need to go over there? >> Well-- >> We'll stay put. >> She--you stay put. She'll come to you. >> Just don't let--just don't [inaudible]--